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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    Pope has spoken out against America having a well-defined border.
    But, since he lives such a well-protected, safe and secure life I don't feel he should expect other countries not to do the same if they so choose.

    He's in charge. Much that he represents could be sold or auctioned off. The artwork, fine linens, gold and jewels could feed a couple countries for a while. Don't get me wrong. I'm not promoting the idea. It would just help contribute to a more impoverished appearance for the papal life he espouses to.
    The buildings, walls, sculpture, paintings etc. of the Vatican are considered its national treasure and on the list of World Heritage Sites. The walls were built around 800 AD and don't surround the city completely. The Pope himself can't unilaterally tear down walls or dispose of everything in the Vatican according to whim, anymore than a U.S. president could sell off our national treasures. Also, anybody can go through the Vatican walls at anytime. There are no border guards asking for papers from those who enter.

    Every wall in the world can't be used as ammo just because it's an ongoing issue with Americans.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GazzaQueen View Post
    The Pope made a big show during the campaign to mouth off about "bridges, not walls," when he himself lives behind the huge protective walls of the Vatican, with not one single illegal alien living in his country.

    The Don pointed out The Pope's hypocrisy and shut him up.
    You are totally, completely, 100% clueless. Pick up a history book for a change, you're talking out your nether regions.


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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    The buildings, walls, sculpture, paintings etc. of the Vatican are considered its national treasure and on the list of World Heritage Sites. The walls were built around 800 AD and don't surround the city completely. The Pope himself can't unilaterally tear down walls or dispose of everything in the Vatican according to whim, anymore than a U.S. president could sell off our national treasures. Also, anybody can go through the Vatican walls at anytime. There are no border guards asking for papers from those who enter.

    Every wall in the world can't be used as ammo just because it's an ongoing issue with Americans.
    I've been to the Vatican Museum.. it's stunningly opulent and beautiful and awesome at the same time..

    Just like I wouldn't want the Cairo museum collection broken up,i would hate to see the same there
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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    I've been to the Vatican Museum.. it's stunningly opulent and beautiful and awesome at the same time..

    Just like I wouldn't want the Cairo museum collection broken up,i would hate to see the same there
    I've been there too. So we both know that the Vatican wall doesn't keep anybody out.


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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    The buildings, walls, sculpture, paintings etc. of the Vatican are considered its national treasure and on the list of World Heritage Sites. The walls were built around 800 AD and don't surround the city completely. The Pope himself can't unilaterally tear down walls or dispose of everything in the Vatican according to whim, anymore than a U.S. president could sell off our national treasures. Also, anybody can go through the Vatican walls at anytime. There are no border guards asking for papers from those who enter.

    Every wall in the world can't be used as ammo just because it's an ongoing issue with Americans.
    I'm fine with them keeping all their earthly treasures and worldly goods. Really....I am, I don't want'm. Just as a lot of fundamentalist hucksters want to keep their millions, mansions and private jets. I'm a capitalist, LOL. I'm just not a fan of either if they tell other people with fewer 'comforts' they need to give from their true poverty. Jesus had way too much to say about this than I could print here.

    As for the other matter, whether it's the Pope or others who are able to maintain safety and security through walls, borders, gates or Vatican Swiss Guard......I don't appreciate being told that I or my country shouldn't be afforded the same right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    I've been to the Vatican Museum.. it's stunningly opulent and beautiful and awesome at the same time..

    Just like I wouldn't want the Cairo museum collection broken up,i would hate to see the same there
    Love the Cairo Museum. But, it's not religiously affiliated.
    Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
    empathy for animal suffering can lack compassion for unborn children who experience lethal violence and excruciating
    pain in abortion.

    Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
    which has begun. To abort life is to end it.



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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    The buildings, walls, sculpture, paintings etc. of the Vatican are considered its national treasure and on the list of World Heritage Sites. The walls were built around 800 AD and don't surround the city completely. The Pope himself can't unilaterally tear down walls or dispose of everything in the Vatican according to whim, anymore than a U.S. president could sell off our national treasures. Also, anybody can go through the Vatican walls at anytime. There are no border guards asking for papers from those who enter.

    Every wall in the world can't be used as ammo just because it's an ongoing issue with Americans.
    of course every wall in the world can be used as ammo. We are told walls dont work. Therefore we point to Israel and Hungary where walls did work.

    Btw if as liberals claim "walls dont work" the vatican wouldnt have built them and gotten sacked more than it has historically.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    I've been to the Vatican Museum.. it's stunningly opulent and beautiful and awesome at the same time..

    Just like I wouldn't want the Cairo museum collection broken up,i would hate to see the same there
    you can break down christian stuff but islamic culture must be preserved brother annatta
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    Quote Originally Posted by tsuke View Post
    of course every wall in the world can be used as ammo. We are told walls dont work. Therefore we point to Israel and Hungary where walls did work.

    Btw if as liberals claim "walls dont work" the vatican wouldnt have built them and gotten sacked more than it has historically.
    Typical nationalist. You're looking at every wall in the world through your trump-colored glasses. How about taking them off and looking at history?

    The Vatican wall was built in the 800s and it wasn't to keep out people who wanted to work there illegally.


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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    Yes.
    Yet you support abortion, so... not really a Catholic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tsuke View Post
    you can break down christian stuff but islamic culture must be preserved brother annatta
    What Christian stuff was broken down?

    Can you appreciate art for its own sake without politicizing?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    LOL, don't you like Eastern foods? It's wonderful with a lot of unique spices and flavors.
    I can stand it once in a great while, but Italian food is life itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    Interested to hear from the Head of State of Vatican City (Pope) in the country Vatican. I want to hear a gold-laden man who took a "vow of poverty" living in the height of security with borders and walls try to lecture Trump on not wanting the same security for our country.
    Evidently, you are unaware that Pope Francis has more moral authority on his worst day, that President Pussy Grabber has on his best.

    No human is perfect, but the pope lived a life that an unequivocally be characterized as a life of respect and empathy for his fellow humans.

    Your hero, the Orange Clown, lived a life in pursuit of profit and sexual pleasure using his Daddy's money and other people's money as leverage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    You are totally, completely, 100% clueless. Pick up a history book for a change, you're talking out your nether regions.
    Recent history. We all remember it because it was only a few short months ago. No doubt you don't since you don't remember yesterday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GazzaQueen View Post
    Recent history. We all remember it because it was only a few short months ago. No doubt you don't since you don't remember yesterday.
    The Vatican wall doesn't keep anyone out, dummy. Not Christians, not Muslims, not Jews, not atheists, not illegals. So your snarky comments about the Pope are ill-informed and your argument about the Vatican wall is specious.


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