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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    #semantics

    I don't believe you're being honest at all. Your whole argument is based on wordplay.

    We could just say that when Trump insults people for their ethnicity, he's not being racist, he's being bigoted. But I'm sure you'll find a way out of that too.
    Removing race from racism will be a can of worms for you, because you would then have the burden of proving that Trumps comments about the Mexican judge were because of resentment of the judges ethnicity. We would then have to get the meaning of racism to exclude race, but add in nationality. Then you would need to prove that Trump has something against the Mexican nationality. Then we would have a sister thread to this one where I ask for evidence that Trump has something against the Mexican nationality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evmetro View Post
    The same source also says "The belief that different races possess distinct characteristics, abilities, or qualities, especially so as to distinguish them as inferior or superior to one another." Even if you include ethnicity in the definition, ethnicity is still not race. Ethnic slurs are still about ethnicity, racial slurs are still about race. Even if every dictionary and encyclopedia completely eliminates race from racism, race and ethnicity will always have unique definitions. Race is associated with biology and linked with physical characteristics such as skin color or hair texture. Ethnicity is linked with cultural expression and identification. The only way Trump could ever be framed as a racist is if you remove race from the equation. What's the point of framing somebody as a racist if you have to remove race in order to do it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by katzgar View Post
    Why do you suppose David Duke and the klan endorse Trump? Of course Trump is a racist there's no question
    Endorsements of a candidate do not prove reciprocity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evmetro View Post
    Removing race from racism will be a can of worms for you, because you would then have the burden of proving that Trumps comments about the Mexican judge were because of resentment of the judges ethnicity. We would then have to get the meaning of racism to exclude race, but add in nationality. Then you would need to prove that Trump has something against the Mexican nationality. Then we would have a sister thread to this one where I ask for evidence that Trump has something against the Mexican nationality.


    I've never seen so much #semantics in one post.

    So look, Trump wasn't being racist, he was being bigoted. Happy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post


    I've never seen so much #semantics in one post.

    So look, Trump wasn't being racist, he was being bigoted. Happy?
    Racism is a type of bigotry, but bigotry is not racism. Bigotry is intolerance, and I can only hope that Trump has less tolerance of the radical lefties, blm, and antifa than I do.

    Btw, the Mexicans thread already exists here, but it is tailored to his comments about mexicans being rapists. As you can probably guess, every lefty on this forum failed to provide a quote of Trump calling Mexicans rapists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evmetro View Post
    Racism is a type of bigotry, but bigotry is not racism. Bigotry is intolerance, and I can only hope that Trump has less tolerance of the radical lefties, blm, and antifa than I do.
    #deflection

    So Trump pretends to be a bigot against certain ethnicities to please his base.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    #deflection

    So Trump pretends to be a bigot against certain ethnicities to please his base.
    I'd have to vet each alleged pretended act of bigotry separately in order to give a good answer.
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    EAT A DICK HATER!
    eat a hat, dicker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evmetro View Post
    I'd have to vet each alleged pretended act of bigotry separately in order to give a good answer.

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    3 years and 1765 posts. Come on lefties, let's see some evidence that proves Trump is a racist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evmetro View Post
    Endorsements of a candidate do not prove reciprocity.

    ROTFL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evmetro View Post
    3 years and 1765 posts. Come on lefties, let's see some evidence that proves Trump is a racist.
    “6/30/17

    I predict Evmetro will post some babbling piece of bullshit and when people reply to point that out, he will respond with a juvenile “I told you so!”

    Thank you in advance for proving me correct.”

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    Interesting how the Marxist democrats are making racism such a big part of their 2020 campaign, yet there is not a shred of evidence that proves Trump is a racist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evmetro View Post
    Interesting how the Marxist democrats are making racism such a big part of their 2020 campaign, yet there is not a shred of evidence that proves Trump is a racist.
    Disagreed.

    https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgo...-the-data-say/
    First, Donald Trump’s support in the 2016 campaign was clearly driven by racism, sexism, and xenophobia. While some observers have explained Trump’s success as a result of economic anxiety, the data demonstrate that anti-immigrant sentiment, racism, and sexism are much more strongly related to support for Trump. Trump’s much-discussed vote advantage with non-college-educated whites is misleading; when accounting for racism and sexism, the education gap among whites in the 2016 election returns to the typical levels of previous elections since 2000. Trump did not do especially well with non-college-educated whites, compared to other Republicans. He did especially well with white people who express sexist views about women and who deny racism exists.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine...mments/588067/
    Instances of bigotry involving Donald Trump span more than four decades. The Atlantic interviewed a range of people with knowledge of several of those episodes. Their recollections have been edited for concision and clarity....


    https://fortune.com/2016/06/07/donal...racism-quotes/
    In 1989, he told Bryant Gumbel in an interview, “A well-educated black has a tremendous advantage over a well-educated white in terms of the job market…if I was starting off today, I would love to be a well-educated black, because I really do believe they have the actual advantage today. “ In fact, all the serious studies refuted that. However his statement did serve as a kind of shout-out to those who were ignorant about the racial dynamics in the U.S. economy.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...acist-comment/
    House Speaker Paul D. Ryan said Tuesday that Donald Trump’s attacks on a federal judge, citing his Mexican heritage, constituted “the textbook definition of a racist comment” ....


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    Disagreed.

    https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgo...-the-data-say/
    First, Donald Trump’s support in the 2016 campaign was clearly driven by racism, sexism, and xenophobia. While some observers have explained Trump’s success as a result of economic anxiety, the data demonstrate that anti-immigrant sentiment, racism, and sexism are much more strongly related to support for Trump. Trump’s much-discussed vote advantage with non-college-educated whites is misleading; when accounting for racism and sexism, the education gap among whites in the 2016 election returns to the typical levels of previous elections since 2000. Trump did not do especially well with non-college-educated whites, compared to other Republicans. He did especially well with white people who express sexist views about women and who deny racism exists.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine...mments/588067/
    Instances of bigotry involving Donald Trump span more than four decades. The Atlantic interviewed a range of people with knowledge of several of those episodes. Their recollections have been edited for concision and clarity....


    https://fortune.com/2016/06/07/donal...racism-quotes/
    In 1989, he told Bryant Gumbel in an interview, “A well-educated black has a tremendous advantage over a well-educated white in terms of the job market…if I was starting off today, I would love to be a well-educated black, because I really do believe they have the actual advantage today. “ In fact, all the serious studies refuted that. However his statement did serve as a kind of shout-out to those who were ignorant about the racial dynamics in the U.S. economy.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...acist-comment/
    House Speaker Paul D. Ryan said Tuesday that Donald Trump’s attacks on a federal judge, citing his Mexican heritage, constituted “the textbook definition of a racist comment” ....
    Gish gallop itself is not evidence of anything. If there is a shred of evidence contained within the gish gallop that you just posted, isolate it and post it here. As I have posted hundreds of times now, lefties are only able to post allegations, dismissed cases, gish gallop, secondhand quotes, or propaganda.

    I am ready to address the first item that you claim proves Trump is a racist. Please include the item, what race Trump feels is inferior, and why it proves he is a racist.
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