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    Quote Originally Posted by Right View Post
    Same rights, same responsibility not to infringe on the rights of others.
    No heart.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robo View Post
    Actually I do believe the courts have upheld that money when used to promote political opinions and speech are protected by the 1st amendment as free speech. Explain please why that isn't constitutionally correct.
    Because the Constitution is about rights of "the People". Corporations are simply a tool used to create a entity separate from humanity. You cant put a corporation in prison, you cant expect morality from a corporation, in fact a public corporation has a fudicary duty to do the morally wrong thing, if it would result in making more money .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    No heart.
    That's what charity is for, not FedCo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iolo View Post
    i.e. colonialism stinks, and amounts to large-scale theft; capitalism stinks and amounts to large-scale theft and mass-murder; newspapers are controlled by criminals and tell lies automatically, pushing people to choose fuhrers and work against their own interests: the modern social-type media is vulnerable to powerful liars all the time; people's experience takes time to catch up with reality, especially when power-people deliberately distort it: the vast majority of mugs are brainwashed and bleat like sheep rather than talking like humans.
    why can't everyone be simple goat worshippers like you, iolo?
    Free speech is cool as long as it jibes with our program.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iolo View Post
    Many of the posts here are from people whose messages I don't see, so I hope I am not way off beam when I go by the words on the top and say that I believe what I believe because it fits in with the experience of my People and my family, as interpreted by a fairly sceptical and educated intelligence in my own generation.
    I keep you off ignore because your comments are so fucking absurd that they make me laugh. lol
    Free speech is cool as long as it jibes with our program.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Right View Post
    That's what charity is for, not FedCo.
    It is not about charity, the point is that Corporations, given the opportunity will, in-fact, in some instances are required to, enslave people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Actually the Courts have held that Corporations have the same rights to people, basically for Constitutional law Corporations are now people. Citizens United.
    do you know why that happened? because big government democrats tried to confiscate property owned by corporations as punishment for not volunteering to reduce profits. so bad cases made bad case law
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iolo View Post
    CRONY capitalism stinks and amounts to large-scale theft and mass-murder; newspapers are controlled by criminals and tell lies automatically, pushing people to choose fuhrers and work against their own interests: the modern social-type media is vulnerable to powerful liars all the time; people's experience takes time to catch up with reality, especially when power-people deliberately distort it: the vast majority of mugs are brainwashed and bleat like sheep rather than talking like humans.
    fixed part of that for you
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    No heart.
    just like government
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    It is not about charity, the point is that Corporations, given the opportunity will, in-fact, in some instances are required to, enslave people.
    Proof?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    do you know why that happened? because big government democrats tried to confiscate property owned by corporations as punishment for not volunteering to reduce profits. so bad cases made bad case law
    False, read the case.

    Even if it were true, I don't so much care why it happened, I care that it did happen.

    Giving Corporations Constitutional Rights as if they were people is a big step toward corporate Italian style fascism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    just like government
    Government has no obligation to make profit at all costs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Government has no obligation to make profit at all costs.
    government has no heart, THAT is what i said.
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    government has no heart, THAT is what i said.
    The purpose of government is to protect the people.

    The purpose of a corporation is to make a profit.
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