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https://www.mipha.org/epi/conf2014/W...03_28_2014.pdf
This is a direct comparison of outcomes in cancer patients, the one disease you can look at and compare outcomes. Things like overall mortality and infant mortality are invalid because they are not measured the same in every country.
As you can see that the US ranks at or near the top in every major cancer studied. You will also notice that this study was looking at data PRE Obamacare so we are looking at a true apples to apples comparison of a non single payer entity. If our single payer friends were correct about the United States having the worst healthcare, then this data would be horrendous.
This is the equivalent of showing that NOAA manipulated the climate data. It is irrefutable that the US has the best healthcare. Those who would tell you otherwise are either grossly misinformed or have an alternative agenda
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Oh BTW, the UK is horrendous for cancer treatment. I guess that NHS is AWESOME as long as you don't actually get sick and need care. At least the UKs crappy care is covered, so that is something
Mott the Hoople (05-07-2017)
Donald Rump disagrees with you.
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LOCK HIM UP!
Your own Commonwealth fund placed the NHS number one for overall healthcare!
"Karen Davis and colleagues from the US-based Commonwealth Fund have examined eleven healthcare systems in this new version of a report previously published in 2010. They have ranked the UK first overall and first across a whole host of categories encompassing quality care (effective, safe, coordinated and patient-centred), access (cost-related problems) and efficiency. However the UK fared less well in the ‘Healthy Lives’ category, where it was placed 10th, only ahead of the US, which was also ranked 11th overall. Davis et al highlight that the UK’s overall top ranking was also achieved on the second lowest spending per capita across the 11 countries under review, at $3,405, only more than New Zealand ($3,182)."
http://www.nhsconfed.org/resources/2...lthcare-system
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Bill (05-07-2017), Mott the Hoople (05-07-2017)
Yeh bullshit on stilts!!
http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/breast-...roduction.aspx
Mott the Hoople (05-07-2017)
Did you notice he doesn't mention cost Tom?
You're Never Alone With A Schizophrenic!
The trumpskins are cutting off several milion Americans to take one for the team so the rich guys can have another tax break.
"There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."
So you are willing to have cheaper cancer treatments with poorer outcomes for yourself?
Let me guess. The best for you and generic for everyone else right?
Funny. Everyone claims that healthcare is SOOOOOOO important that the government has to pay for it yet they don't want to pay any money?
Go figure.
Last edited by Damocles; 05-09-2017 at 10:23 PM. Reason: Watch the language in APP
"There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."
I would like to bring people back on topic please. The topic is this. How do you explain the US having better outcomes than the UK in cancer survival while not having "single payer"?
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