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    Quote Originally Posted by aloysious View Post
    Would you just listen to yourself? Can you see thru your partisan fog how nebulous you are?
    My use of language is a tribute to how many times a connie on here has said that I guaranteed some sort of concrete finding from this. All I have ever said is that it deserves to be investigated - and it does.

    Sorry 'bout that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    Anatta, tying Dems to "neocons" is an alarmist red herring. Totally bogus charge.

    You still don't seem to think so, but the idea of Russia meddling in a U.S. election and possibly helping determine the outcome is kind of a big deal to people who care about integrity in our electoral process. Just let the friggin' thing play out. If they don't find anything, they don't find anything.

    No one is starting a war here. Get over this.
    Hillary labeling Trump supporters irredeemable deplorables did more to influence the election than anything the Russians could have dreamt up lol. Not to mention emails, what the DNC did to Bernie and a host of other factors. If you think the Russians could affect an electoral outcome in this country, you need to step away from the punch bowl.

    At any rate, Obama knew about possible Russian meddling as far back as September. Why no investigation until Trump won the election?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    My use of language is a tribute to how many times a connie on here has said that I guaranteed some sort of concrete finding from this. All I have ever said is that it deserves to be investigated - and it does.

    Sorry 'bout that.
    You know it's a witch hunt that has a small chance of finding anything, don't you.
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    You people are so desperate It is entertaining

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Hillary labeling Trump supporters irredeemable deplorables did more to influence the election than anything the Russians could have dreamt up lol. Not to mention emails, what the DNC did to Bernie and a host of other factors. If you think the Russians could affect an electoral outcome in this country, you need to step away from the punch bowl.

    At any rate, Obama knew about possible Russian meddling as far back as September. Why no investigation until Trump won the election?
    Man, you really don't know anything about anything. First it was the whole "congress doesn't investigate" thing. Now it's "why didn't they investigate until Trump won?"

    The investigation started a little under a year ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rune View Post
    Are you kidding me?
    Sessions clearly lied.

    When I told you about the RT thing you denied that too.

    FYI Flynn is a registed foreign agent.
    They'll keep moving the goalposts until they're in a different stadium.

    Flynn is a Turkish operative. Manafort was a Russian operative. trump gave both of them access to classified briefings.
    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    You know it's a witch hunt that has a small chance of finding anything, don't you.
    Yeah - because you know so much about what actually happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    Dangerous? How could a little teddy bear like Russia be dangerous to the U.S.?

    It will be kind of funny if the investigation turns something up now. I haven't seen too many on the left guaranteeing anything - but you have started dozens of threads basically guaranteeing that there is nothing there.
    I'm waiting for the testimonies that are slated for next week. I don't expect anything but an investigation. It can't be denied though that with the DoD and other agencies investigating Flynn that he is in trouble, whether it means charges, that is left to been seen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    You people are so desperate It is entertaining
    the desperation is the Dem's use of "Russiagate" to go after Trump-regardless of the geo-political costs of doing so.
    It's part of their "resistance" strategy, but it has real world consequences far above any domestic actions.

    oh lord.. the "operatives" are back..
    Kissinger: “demonization of Vladimir Putin is not a policy; it is an alibi for the absence of one.”
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    Cold War 2.0 Russia hysteria is turning people’s brains into guacamole.
    We’ve got to find a way to snap out of the propaganda trance
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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    the desperation is the Dem's use of "Russiagate" to go after Trump-regardless of the geo-political costs of doing so.
    It's part of their "resistance" strategy, but it has real world consequences far above any domestic actions
    Wrong!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Wrong!
    squirrel!
    Kissinger: “demonization of Vladimir Putin is not a policy; it is an alibi for the absence of one.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    Man, you really don't know anything about anything. First it was the whole "congress doesn't investigate" thing. Now it's "why didn't they investigate until Trump won?"

    The investigation started a little under a year ago.
    Cite?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    They'll keep moving the goalposts until they're in a different stadium.

    Flynn is a Turkish operative. Manafort was a Russian operative. trump gave both of them access to classified briefings.
    Wasn't the Clinton Foundation essentially a foreign operative?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    Says who?

    I just saw a piece this week about how the committee is really dragging its feet, and hasn't conducted interviews with quite a few key players to this point.
    Maybe because there are no key players. And if there were, what did they play? Maybe there's a security camera video of a 'key player' playing roulette with a russian ex-pat at the Trump International Hotel Las Vegas. Yeah, that's it. The smoking gun!
    Impeachable offense!

    Look at it this way: if the FBI couldn't come up with any crime to prosecute hrc with, there's no way they'll come up with anything on Trump. The shit she pulled was blatant bribe acceptance for influence thinly disguised as speaking fees or clinton foundation donations that were clearly not used for charity.

    Oh yeah, and if the russians are our enemy (they are not) then what hrc did was treason, plain and simple. So forget about 'the Russians' hacking the election in collaboration with Trump.
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    The Ugly Underbelly of Russia-gate
    https://consortiumnews.com/2017/04/0...f-russia-gate/

    This sort of casual contempt for Russia and Russians became a feature of the 2016 campaign, which was rife with evidence-free reports supporting Hillary Clinton’s claim that Trump was Putin’s “puppet.”

    Some of that storyline was developed in collaboration between Hillary Clinton’s supporters and the fiercely anti-Russian government in Ukraine. Politico reported that Alexandra Chalupa, a Ukrainian-American working as a consultant for the Democratic National Committee (DNC), met with top Ukrainian officials in Washington to push the narrative that Trump was under Russian influence.

    Clinton’s defeat only added more fuel to the anti-Russia frenzy of angry Clinton supporters — and their fury is now debasing our political discourse.
    But the Clintonites and their neocon allies are now going even further, in Stalinist fashion, urging Americans to investigate the loyalty of other Americans.

    Leading the charge is Neera Tanden’s Center for American Progress, which recently launched “The Moscow Project,” which takes the Democratic Party narrative blaming Hillary Clinton’s defeat on “Russia’s interference in the 2016 presidential election” to a new level. Painting Trump as a traitor, “given Trump’s obedience to Vladimir Putin,” the project encourages Americans to scour the Internet for evidence to buttress the disloyalty allegations against Trump and his backers.

    Bashing Bernie

    And then there is the tireless Clinton shill Peter Daou, second perhaps only to Tanden among unreconstructed Clinton apparatchiks. Daou’s self-appointed mission of late has been to tie Sen. Bernie Sanders and his supporters to the Kremlin, tweeting claims like,
    “It is becoming increasingly clear that Bernie’s diehard supporters, those who became avowed Hillary haters, were influenced by #Russia” and “On the one hand, you had Russia hacking the DNC, on the other, Bernie Sanders and his diehards trashing the DNC. And Trump loved it.”

    Daou is hardly alone in his effort to anathematize Sanders supporters. But credit for spearheading that effort should probably go to the Internet tabloid The Daily Beast, which has twice published widely discredited and brutally mocked articles which have attempted to portray Bernie Sanders’s supporters as pawns of the Kremlin.

    Where all this will lead is anyone’s guess, but judging by precedent, nowhere good.

    As my esteemed Nation colleague, Patrick Lawrence has warned: “the reigning Russophobia worsens America’s creeping isolation in world affairs — evident for years but rarely mentioned among us, and so another of our delusions. At bottom, Washington still operates according to Bush II’s ‘with us or against us’ construct, and the world’s vote starts to tilt toward the latter. In the end, the Russians will not be a lonelier people as a result of our efforts. We will be.”

    Meanwhile, the American political establishment finds itself firmly in the grip of yet another Red Scare.
    Kissinger: “demonization of Vladimir Putin is not a policy; it is an alibi for the absence of one.”
    ________

    Cold War 2.0 Russia hysteria is turning people’s brains into guacamole.
    We’ve got to find a way to snap out of the propaganda trance
    ________

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    1.2.3.4.5.6.7. All Good Children Go to Heaven

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