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    If we can't get them to pay taxes when they are alive, well take it when they die.

    Always trying to get out of paying taxes...evil, greedy fucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TTQ64 View Post
    If we can't get them to pay taxes when they are alive, well take it when they die.

    Always trying to get out of paying taxes...evil, greedy fucks.
    So you are saying you pay more than you are legally obligated to?

    What deductions do you forgo in an effort to pay MORE in taxes?

    Please list them

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    TTQ64, who do you think pays all the taxes in California?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    TTQ64, who do you think pays all the taxes in California?
    Make your point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TTQ64 View Post
    Make your point.
    What tax deductions to you ignore? You do realize that you aren't legally obligated to take deductions. So you are free to pay MORE in taxes to help the poor which I hear liberals claim all the time. But, when challenged with this very question they backtrack. Will you? Or will you lie?

    Come on let's be honest. Not only do you take EVERY deduction, but you probably cheat on your taxes too. For example, ever claim charitable deductions you never made? Bet you have. Do you declare sales tax that you didn't pay for online purchases? Most states give you a chance on your state income tax to pay the sales tax you didn't pay for online purchases. Bet you don't.

    So you are probably a tax cheat yourself, but you try to sound bold yelling about the rich. You only look petty and small.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TTQ64 View Post
    Make your point.
    The richest 1% in our state pay basically half the income taxes. You're arguing that greedy and evil rich people don't pay when clearly they do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    The richest 1% in our state pay basically half the income taxes. You're arguing that greedy and evil rich people don't pay when clearly they do.
    Well that totally makes sense since the top one percent own well over 50 percent of the wealth of the nation.

    What I have noticed is that conservatives never want to talk about the aggregate tax burden, they only want to talk about income tax.

    So my question to you is: What percentage of sales taxes, gas taxes, fees, and payroll taxes are paid by the bottom 99 percent? Pretty much all of it, eh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Well that totally makes sense since the top one percent own well over 50 percent of the wealth of the nation.

    What I have noticed is that conservatives never want to talk about the aggregate tax burden, they only want to talk about income tax.

    So my question to you is: What percentage of sales taxes, gas taxes, fees, and payroll taxes are paid by the bottom 99 percent? Pretty much all of it, eh?
    Income taxes by far make up the largest chunk of taxes collected by the state hence why they get the most discussion. I don't hear any of our Democratic politicians in the state saying we should reduce our gas or sales tax.

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    btw just a summary of the tax plan

    *Corporate tax rate of 15%
    *Double the standard individual tax deduction
    *A one-time repatriation tax
    *Eliminate the estate tax
    *Eliminate itemized tax deductions other than charitable donations and mortgage payments
    *Repeal 3.8% tax on net investment income
    *Repeal the alternative minimum tax
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Well that totally makes sense since the top one percent own well over 50 percent of the wealth of the nation.

    What I have noticed is that conservatives never want to talk about the aggregate tax burden, they only want to talk about income tax.

    So my question to you is: What percentage of sales taxes, gas taxes, fees, and payroll taxes are paid by the bottom 99 percent? Pretty much all of it, eh?
    Really?

    The top 1% don't pay gasoline taxes? Payroll taxes? And according to you they don't buy stuff.

    You might want to back up your claim with statistics and facts not wild supposition

    I agree with that great liberal Thomas Jefferson. The poor should pay a higher tax rate. We would have fewer poor people

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    *Corporate tax rate of 15% - great
    *Double the standard individual tax deduction -great
    *A one-time repatriation tax - great
    *Eliminate the estate tax - not a fan of
    *Eliminate itemized tax deductions other than charitable donations and mortgage payments - great
    *Repeal 3.8% tax on net investment income - not sure
    *Repeal the alternative minimum tax - not sure
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    Quote Originally Posted by tsuke View Post
    btw just a summary of the tax plan

    *Corporate tax rate of 15%
    *Double the standard individual tax deduction
    *A one-time repatriation tax
    *Eliminate the estate tax
    *Eliminate itemized tax deductions other than charitable donations and mortgage payments
    *Repeal 3.8% tax on net investment income
    *Repeal the alternative minimum tax
    I can't remember a proposal or plan that was so skewed in favor of the wealthy.

    Again - I get making the tax rates less prohibitive for corporations to stay domestic. But things like eliminating the estate tax and repealing the AMT are so blatantly for the rich, and against the middle class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    I can't remember a proposal or plan that was so skewed in favor of the wealthy.

    Again - I get making the tax rates less prohibitive for corporations to stay domestic. But things like eliminating the estate tax and repealing the AMT are so blatantly for the rich, and against the middle class.
    eliminating state tax from federal deduction hits the rich hard

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    I can't remember a proposal or plan that was so skewed in favor of the wealthy.

    Again - I get making the tax rates less prohibitive for corporations to stay domestic. But things like eliminating the estate tax and repealing the AMT are so blatantly for the rich, and against the middle class.
    the estate tax im not sure off but the AMT and the rest are trying to simplify the tax code.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    What if you actually commented on the topic for once Zap instead of commenting on other posters? What did Trump say differently on the campaign trail compared to what's in his tax proposal that makes you believe Trump voters got conned?
    I comment on the topic quite often.

    Right now, over on another thread, I am being personally attacked for my comments on the topic.

    If staying on topic is so important to you, then maybe once or twice you might call out those who go off topic to spew their personal attacks at me.

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