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    Quote Originally Posted by Milagro View Post
    Yes let's go back to the days of Red Robbo, IMF loans, three​ day weeks, unions controlling the Labour party and the manifesto.

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    Yes - people could speak freely before the Thatcher police state set in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    Because housing and a mate isn't part of what we define as healthcare. Neither are a fitness instructor, car driving lessons, a healthy diet, and relaxing meditation at a spa. I'm sorry this is so difficult for you.
    We are talking about blanket government health care which also should include healthy food.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    GMAFB with your BS. Hell, with your mindset, EVERYTHING is at the whim of the OWNER, and workers be damned.

    Been there, done that genius. Know your history regarding the Labor movement in this country (and around the world). Without it, your butt would not be sitting in front of a computer screen blowing smoke.
    If the government is going to take care of my health needs, then the government should take care of my health needs. Demonstrating the absurdity of you socialists by being absurd is the best way to demonstrate how stupid your ideas are and how totalitarian they become when applied.

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    I seem to have lost all of the "social democrats"

    I guess that whole monopoly thing really threw them for a loop. I will give them time to regroup

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    Quote Originally Posted by philly rabbit View Post
    If the government is going to take care of my health needs, then the government should take care of my health needs. Demonstrating the absurdity of you socialists by being absurd is the best way to demonstrate how stupid your ideas are and how totalitarian they become when applied.
    Like how housing and health care are the same because they start with the same letter?

    Fucking idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    a car crashes and burns up.

    Before it burns up a by stander manages to pull a small girl from then car.


    she is bleeding and will bleed out without care.



    does this society owe her care or should she bleed out in the street?


    there is only one answer if you are not an evil fucking piece of shit
    As long as the bill for it is sent to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Ok lol, let's put it this way.

    In a civil society, they won't allow you to bleed out or die of sepsis in the ER.
    Who gets the bill?

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    there is no country on the face of this earth that would grow great by letting people just die for lack of care,


    how stupid is this idea?



    WAY
    Can we send the bills for all this "free" healthcare you think people should get to you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackascoal View Post
    Civil rights and humanity weren't 'rights' until the American people demanded them.

    Today, the American people have demanded universal health care, and by their demand, universal health care has essentially become a right.

    AND, yes indeed there is a better plan .. it's called Single Payer / Medicare for All.

    The better plan is for you to provide yours, me to provide mine, and you to provide it for anyone that doesn't have it for which you believe it is owed. When you're willing to put YOUR money where you put your mouth, get back to me, boy. Until you are, you have no say in how MY money is spent on such things. I don't you or anyone else a damn thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackascoal View Post
    They were also wise enough to know that they could not even conceive of what future societies would look like, or what the needs would be. That's why they created a living document, knowing it would need to be changed often in the future.

    Jefferson though the Constitution should be rewritten every 19 years.

    Healthcare not being a 'right' isn't really a serious argument.
    They also included in that document a way in which to change it. Last time I looked, it didn't involve something not in the Constitution being a part of it because of a vote by the people.

    Feel free to provide it with your money to anyone you think deserves it and doesn't have it. That's the ONLY way you can prove you believe what you say. Claiming you care about people then demanding others get handed the bill isn't a serious defense of an argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackascoal View Post
    :0) That could very well be the end of your story brother .. but it most certainly isn't the end of the story of healthcare in this country.

    ..and, it's not my fault that you know so little about the Constitution and Founders that you claim to know so well.

    It's adaptable by future generations as the Founders intended .. thus, it's a living document.
    The founders included a method for adding things to the Constitution which were not in it originally. Government run healthcare was not one of the delegated powers in the original document nor has it been added using the method of doing so set up by those same founders. If you claim it can be added by a simple majority partisan vote, it is quite evident you know nothing about the Constitution.

    The Constitution is adaptable but not in the manner in which you want to adapt it.

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    Then why haven't libtards tried to make an Amendment making healthcare a right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by philly rabbit View Post
    If the government is going to take care of my health needs, then the government should take care of my health needs. Demonstrating the absurdity of you socialists by being absurd is the best way to demonstrate how stupid your ideas are and how totalitarian they become when applied.
    Hey, buddy. Did you ever answer my question?

    Do you have healthcare and who provides it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by philly rabbit View Post
    ..... being absurd
    Thanks for admitting your argument is absurd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I Love America View Post
    Then why haven't liberals tried to make an Amendment making healthcare a right?
    I'm sure some have tried. Certainly not practical when 40 percent of the population are retarded poor whites who think voting in rich people's interest is good for them also.

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