I love this distinction between "totalitarian socialism" and "voluntary socialism" that libtards are trying to make.
On a certain level it shows that they comprehend the horrors that is socialism
I love this distinction between "totalitarian socialism" and "voluntary socialism" that libtards are trying to make.
On a certain level it shows that they comprehend the horrors that is socialism
Everybody has to pay for healthcare regardless of their health status. Why shouldn't everybody then get a house if the government is providing?
You live longer and are healthier if you have a mate and conduct human contact with them daily compared to someone who lives alone. That is a fact confirmed by studies. Shouldn't the government then provide everybody a mate?
Both are examples of blanket healthcare for everybody.
Or are you saying that only prrrrrrrrrrrr people should be paying for government housing and doctors?
No mate, it just goes to show how little you know about the world outside of your own bubble. Would you say that Nazism and the right wing politics you espouse are the same? There is a vast difference between social democracy and Socialism, if you can't see that then so be it.
https://spfaust.wordpress.com/2011/0...he-difference/
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If I have to pay for government healthcare if I want healthcare and I have no choice in the matter, why then shouldn't the government provide me with a house knowing that people with roofs over their heads and heated houses are healthier than people without regardless of whether or not i need a house.
Life must be terrifying for you, in a constant state of bewilderment over the most simple things. See, there is this abstract concept we humans call categories. We put things in them after we identify the basic nature of a given thing. That allows us to deal with them separately from things that are different. I know that to a total imbecile like you everything is just all one big category called "stuff" and so no distinctions can be made and no rationale withstands the slippery slope you see everywhere around you, but it works for us.
PS, the private market failed to provide market insurance and spread the risk, it simply decided to dump the risky and insure the healthy. Ergo the need for a government option. The housing market has its own flaws, but as yet there is no house mandate. People still get to live on the street. That must warm your heart.
Last edited by Micawber; 04-29-2017 at 12:16 PM.
Rune (04-29-2017)
The end result is the same. You have convinced yourself that a majority vote is some magical talisman that shields you from the tyranny of taking someone's property against their will because you have arbitrarily deemed "they have too much" and well your needs are greater than their right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
Your position is morally indefensible which is why you try to hide behind notions like "helping the poor and needy". Since you brought up Hitler might I remind you that his goals were to help all Germans. But hey whatever gets your rocks off
Maybe you "social democrats" can reconcile this one point from the link Tom provided.
It states that "social democrats" don't believe in monopolies YET these same "social democrats" are constantly pressing for SINGLE PAYER healthcare which by definition is a monopoly.
So your argument breaks down right there. Sorry to break it to you.
Which argument? Your point doesn't prove social democracy and socialism are identical any more than identifying a single black hair on a blonde make the person not blonde. In a free market context, a monopoly is inimical unless it is a natural monopoly. As I stated, many people who want single payer wouldn't care so much if the market serviced all the people. Think about it like this. Remember when the options for mail were USPS or Brown only? The post service did all the hard work, delivering everything, while UPS only delivered the creme, large packages. That's what private insurance does, screw the letter service for 46 cents, screw the poor sick people. We only want healthy people.
cancel2 2022 (04-29-2017)
Well that's nice but healthcare is healthcare. The government is requiring me to purchase across the board healthcare and that includes housing and companionship.
I defy anybody to explain to me why I shouldn't get both. What difference does it make if I already have a house and a mate?
So many moronic "ifs". And they say there's no such thing as a stupid question. Folks, this proves that adage is wrong. There IS such thing as a stupid question.
Dumbfuck, housing and healthcare may start with the same letter, but they are not remotely related.
Dismissed
Yes, including the "if we were asking for heated housing to be included in healthcare, then I could be pissed about it" part. That fool is pissed about something that doesn't exist. You think he sits around all day imaging things to be pissed off about? "God damned lousy Democrats always flying their political advertisement drone over my house!" "And they've planted a chip in my brain singing Barbara Streisand show tunes!!!!" And the free housing!!!!!!"
domer76 (04-29-2017)
GMAFB with your BS. Hell, with your mindset, EVERYTHING is at the whim of the OWNER, and workers be damned.
Been there, done that genius. Know your history regarding the Labor movement in this country (and around the world). Without it, your butt would not be sitting in front of a computer screen blowing smoke.
During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.
George Orwell
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