New Orleans Begins Tearing Down Confederate Statues -- APPLAUSE

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A statue honoring white supremacists who killed members of the city’s post-Civil War integrated police force was the first to come down.

New Orleans has taken a first major step in fulfilling its 2015 promise to tear down four prominent Confederate statues, an attempt to scrub the city’s public spaces of what many see as white supremacist symbols.

City workers began removing the Battle of Liberty Place statue at 1:25 a.m. Monday in an effort to avoid disruption by protesters who want the monuments to stay, reported The Associated Press. Erected in 1891, the obelisk honors members of the Crescent City White League, a group of all-white Confederate veterans who killed members of the city’s post-Civil War integrated police force.

Mayor Mitch Landrieu (D) tweeted that the statues*“do not represent the diversity” of New Orleans.

Statues commemorating Confederate Gens. Robert E. Lee and P.G.T. Beauregard as well as Jefferson Davis (the first ― and only ― president of the Confederate States of America) will be removed in the coming days. All four of the structures will be relocated to a museum or another “place where they can be put in historical context,” according to a press release issued by the mayor’s office*

The city’s decision to tear down the statues was prompted by the 2015 massacre at historic Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church in Charleston, South Carolina, where white supremacist Dylann Roof shot and killed nine black churchgoers. Nearly six months after the attack, the New Orleans City Council voted 6-1 in favor of removing the monuments.

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Many residents of New Orleans, a predominantly African-American city, have spoken out in support of the move. Landrieu first proposed the idea and it gained momentous support from the city’s black residents, though legal backlash prevented the structures from being removed sooner.

New Orleans is the latest Southern institution to push back against public monuments honoring their Confederate roots, a movement that gained force following the 2015 church shooting.

Soon after, South Carolina passed legislation to remove Confederate flags from its State House grounds. Alabama and Mississippi also decided to remove the banners.
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I applaud this action also but N.O. as a city sucks.
You started a thread about Broken Britian -- In miserable shape

“Listen to this: Britain has the lowest social mobility in the developed world. Here, the salary you earn is more linked to what your father got paid than in any other major country. I’m sorry, for us Conservatives, the party of aspiration, we cannot accept that.”*

When I read that sentence I immediately thought of New Orleans because it describes it to a T. One could easily substitute 'Britain' for 'New Orleans'. From what I understand that applies to other Southern cities like Mobile,AL, Charleston, SC, Savannah, GA.

[anatta]

Statues commemorating Confederate Gens. Robert E. Lee and P.G.T. Beauregard as well as Jefferson Davis (the first ― and only ― president of the Confederate States of America) will be removed in the coming days. All four of the structures will be relocated to a museum or another “place where they can be put in historical context,”

these are historical erections - the one about the white supremecist should have come down.
Jefferson Davis too perhaps

Beware any society that denies it's history for political correctness.

I can see banning Nazi emblems in Germany-there was nothing honorable about the Nazi's
but men of honor did fight for their states ( not the Confederacy so much) -not so much Jefferson Davis
as Robert E. Lee.
Look at the surrender at Appomattox -done in an honorable fashion

[Mr.Badguy]

We can remember those parts of our past without celebrating them.

[moon]

Who runs the Department of Statue Removal ?

[Getin the ring]

Shame on all of us,

we have truly lost our minds, are we not bigger people than to have to deny a part of our history.
Black people need to grow a spine and quit trying to blame white people for everything.

the civil war stood for so much more than slavery

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Gee whiz. Great news. So, this is the magic answer to lowering the murder rate, pick-pocket rate, getting rid of the wasteful spending on Mardi Gras, people cleaning up their property, mowing their lawns, planting flower beds in the 9th ward?

I lived in the mid-city area there from 1978 to 1988. I found it to be a wonderful melting pot of blacks, whites, creoles and Latinos. The city had problems, yet the least of them were race-related. I loved those people and their traditional culture of food and music. The only hint of division I saw there (as explained to me by local blacks) was the discrimination by the 'light-skinned' blacks towards the 'dark-skinned blacks'. They have a lot of very elite social clubs there who frown on admitting the 'dark-skinned' blacks. They told me it's just always been that way.

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these are historical erections - the one about the white supremecist should have come down.
Jefferson Davis too perhaps

Beware any society that denies it's history for political correctness.

I can see banning Nazi emblems in Germany-there was nothing honorable about the Nazi's
but men of honor did fight for their states ( not the Confederacy so much) -not so much Jefferson Davis
as Robert E. Lee.
Look at the surrender at Appomattox -done in an honorable fashion

Yeah, I woulda kept the Robt. E. Lee statue. It was at a historic landmark called Lee Circle which is the unofficial demarcation between the Garden District and Downtown.

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Gee whiz. Great news. So, this is the magic answer to lowering the murder rate, pick-pocket rate, getting rid of the wasteful spending on Mardi Gras, people cleaning up their property, mowing their lawns, planting flower beds in the 9th ward?

I lived in the mid-city area there from 1978 to 1988. I found it to be a wonderful melting pot of blacks, whites, creoles and Latinos. The city had problems, yet the least of them were race-related. I loved those people and their traditional culture of food and music. The only hint of division I saw there (as explained to me by local blacks) was the discrimination by the 'light-skinned' blacks towards the 'dark-skinned blacks. They have a lot of very elite social clubs there who frown on admitting the 'dark-skinned' blacks. They told me it's just always been that way.

Frown??!! No way any black gets in one of those. They only frown on a white person who didn't go to the right high school and who didn't have the right daddy.

[anatta]

Gee whiz. Great news. So, this is the magic answer to lowering the murder rate, pick-pocket rate, getting rid of the wasteful spending on Mardi Gras, people cleaning up their property, mowing their lawns, planting flower beds in the 9th ward?

I lived in the mid-city area there from 1978 to 1988. I found it to be a wonderful melting pot of blacks, whites, creoles and Latinos. The city had problems, yet the least of them were race-related. I loved those people and their traditional culture of food and music. The only hint of division I saw there (as explained to me by local blacks) was the discrimination by the 'light-skinned' blacks towards the 'dark-skinned blacks. They have a lot of very elite social clubs there who frown on admitting the 'dark-skinned' blacks. They told me it's just always been that way.

you do get around! Hong Kong and New Orleans no less anywhere else neat you've been?

I tend to agree that stripping out history is political correctness run wild;
after all PC speech is stripping out the language- same thing.
and the price we pay is being unable to look back and understand why the tensions that caused the Civil war
( more then slavery) were baked into the founding.

I don't see it so much as celebrating the south itself, but a testament to the men who fought the war.
That's what these statutes represent,and they were honorable soldiers.

[Mr.Badguy]

Again, we can remember those parts of our history without celebrating them. The two aren't inseparable.

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Shame on all of us,

we have truly lost our minds, are we not bigger people than to have to deny a part of our history.
Black people need to grow a spine and quit trying to blame white people for everything.

the civil war stood for so much more than slavery

actually black people are a whole could give a fiddlers fuck about these statues.

This is political correctness run amok, and of course the board race hustling mandingo BAC thinks this is "progress". Not one black persons life has materially improved because of this. But, idiots think something happened.

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you do get around! Hong Kong and New Orleans no less anywhere else neat you've been?

I tend to agree that stripping out history is political correctness run wild;
after all PC speech is stripping out the language- same thing.
and the price we pay is being unable to look back and understand why the tensions that caused the Civil war
( more then slavery) were baked into the founding.

I don't see it so much as celebrating the south itself, but a testament to the men who fought the war.
That's what these statutes represent,and they were honorable soldiers.

yeah but ignorant uneducated race hustlers like BAC want you to believe it was only because of slavery

the true traitors of the Civil War were the north led by Lincoln. I only wish he would have been assassinated before he killed 500,000 citizens

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Frown??!! No way any black gets in one of those. They only frown on a white person who didn't go to the right high school and who didn't have the right daddy.

I was speaking of certain Krewes and clubs formed by light-skinned blacks who refuse to allow dark-skinned blacks. Light-skinned blacks formed exclusive clubs after slavery was abolished in the United States. N.O. was the home of the "brown paper bag test" when determining who they allowed in their clubs.

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you do get around! Hong Kong and New Orleans no less anywhere else neat you've been?

I tend to agree that stripping out history is political correctness run wild;
after all PC speech is stripping out the language- same thing.
and the price we pay is being unable to look back and understand why the tensions that caused the Civil war
( more then slavery) were baked into the founding.

I don't see it so much as celebrating the south itself, but a testament to the men who fought the war.
That's what these statutes represent, and they were honorable soldiers.

I was born and raised in Miami, I've also lived in NYC. From my limited experience I've witnessed much more racial issues in those major cities than I've ever seen in small towns or southern rural areas. I live out in horse country now near Ocala. We are a completely mixed community here of blacks and whites and it's such a pleasure having us all get along just fine sharing schools, churches, diners, stores and everybody is soooooo typically southern here, something I'm not used to. We all speak the way people spoke to each other in N.O. "Good morning Mr. Tom, How ya'll doing Miss Lydia and Miss Cynthia?" LOL.....love it around here.

I took a few months when I was 22 and a Eurail pass in hand and went all over the place. Luxemburg, Paris, Madrid, Nice, Barcelona, Morocco, Florence, Athens, Cairo (rode camels, went inside the pyramids), Ljubljana (when it was in Yugoslavia), Budapest, Vienna, Amsterdam.