Wa Post Poll Shows If The Election Were Held Today, Trump Would Still Beat Clinton :)

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One last note on this: it's completely delusional to think that Comey's October Surprise didn't decide the election.

It definitely did. It solidified a negative impression of Hillary, so of course it still shows up in polls today. But that is a completely bogus conclusion on your part.

Given the election was decided by about 80,000 votes in 3 states, there is no doubt whatsoever that Comey's intrusion had the decisive effect. Why deny that? It affects your credibility. It's obvious to even a casual observer of politics.

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One last note on this: it's completely delusional to think that Comey's October Surprise didn't decide the election.

It definitely did. It solidified a negative impression of Hillary, so of course it still shows up in polls today. But that is a completely bogus conclusion on your part.

Given the election was decided by about 80,000 votes in 3 states, there is no doubt whatsoever that Comey's intrusion had the decisive effect. Why deny that? It affects your credibility. It's obvious to even a casual observer of politics.

Did you have your mind made up who were going to vote for by October?

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Did you have your mind made up who were going to vote for by October?

Yep.

[Lightbringer]

Mrs Clinton beat Trump very comfortably, but your system defeated her!

Dammit, I hate that illegal system of laws we have. Fuck, if we could just manage to get rid of the law then everything would nice and legal.

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Dammit, I hate that illegal system of laws we have. Fuck, if we could just manage to get rid of the law then everything would nice and legal.

lol

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One last note on this: it's completely delusional to think that Comey's October Surprise didn't decide the election.

"Would have" answers are definitionally meaningless unless they indicate something about "will do" answers.

Very few didn't already have their minds made up. Very few.

[Mott the Hoople]

Everyone Hates Hillary.

Apparently around 3 million people hated Trump more than Hillary.

[Mott the Hoople]

LOL This thread is hilarious. Grind is spinning like Bush supporters did in 2004 when, predictably Iraq became a debacle. LOL

Hey Grind...he won...why all the rationalizing? A little insecure maybe? LOL LOL LOL

[Lightbringer]

Apparently around 3 million people hated Trump more than Hillary.

Yeah, that's why she won...oh yeah...

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One last note on this: it's completely delusional to think that Comey's October Surprise didn't decide the election.

It definitely did. It solidified a negative impression of Hillary, so of course it still shows up in polls today. But that is a completely bogus conclusion on your part.

Given the election was decided by about 80,000 votes in 3 states, there is no doubt whatsoever that Comey's intrusion had the decisive effect. Why deny that? It affects your credibility. It's obvious to even a casual observer of politics.

Comey also helped Hillary before he hurt her. You left that out of your analysis.

Also missing is the fact any objective observer could see that the bulk of the media was in the tank for Hillary AND anti-Trump.

Comey's comments were just one factor of many that could have factored into it---and most of those factors favored Hillary.

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Yep.

So did I. So did a lot of people.

So how did Comey do any damage?

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Poll shows she would lose the popular vote now, as well.

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I guess, if you also like poll tests and poll taxes and gerrymandering and voter IDs etc and the other perturbations and suppressions.

I like voter ID. Who's requiring test and taxes?

As for gerrymandering, in my state the Democrats were masters of it. Look at the history of NC's 13th district. This link has buttons for 2001 (Democrat drawn), 2011 (Democrat drawn) and 2016 (proposed, Republican drawn). Now tell me who are the masters of gerrymandering.

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I like voter ID. Who's requiring test and taxes?

As for gerrymandering, in my state the Democrats were masters of it. Look at the history of NC's 13th district. This link has buttons for 2001 (Democrat drawn), 2011 (Democrat drawn) and 2016 (proposed, Republican drawn). Now tell me who are the masters of gerrymandering.

I like voter ID too. Our new laws here saved Michigan from going to Hillary because Detroit couldn't just stuff the ballot boxes anymore.

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So did I. So did a lot of people.

So how did Comey do any damage?

You're not serious, are you?