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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    I thought you might pick up on that
    the video was the only story I could find, and I thought it did a good job of showing "Russian expansionism"
    into the Arctic..

    I think Trump should do what I've always said he should do,and what he said he was going to do before all this Russiaphia took over - deal with Putin
    Deal as in bargain, not punish I assume..

    To what end??

    Russia has supported the China grab over a thousand miles from their country, now I guess we know why??
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Badguy View Post
    A big gaudy construction project? Who else do we know that gets involved with such things?
    LOL.. Russia & China are actively expanding, the USA under the backtracking moron is in total defensive mode w/ walls & shutting out the rest of the world..
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    Deal as in bargain, not punish I assume..
    To what end??
    Russia has supported the China grab over a thousand miles from their country, now I guess we know why??
    how are those Crimea sanctions working out? not too good 'eh?

    It's because we have this INSANE "zero sum" relationship w/Putin instead of trying some realpolitik,
    and find areas of cooperation.
    Not that I expect detente to break out - but not every damn move has to be confrontational either.

    Before the sanctions Exxon (Tillerson) partnered with Putin for Arctic drilling.
    we gave them our best high tech to use, and they were supposed to pay for it.

    That was a win/win. And it also protected the Arctic by using the very most cutting edge technology . win/win/win.

    So we threw this deal away (sanctions) for what exactly?
    Putting the Arctic more at risk,and shutting an American company out of sharing in the profits?
    Why do we do stupid stuff?
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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    how are those Crimea sanctions working out? not too good 'eh?

    It's because we have this INSANE "zero sum" relationship w/Putin instead of trying some realpolitik,
    and find areas of cooperation.
    Not that I expect detente to break out - but not every damn move has to be confrontational either.

    Before the sanctions Exxon (Tillerson) partnered with Putin for Arctic drilling.
    we gave them our best high tech to use, and they were supposed to pay for it.

    That was a win/win. And it also protected the Arctic by using the very most cutting edge technology . win/win/win.

    So we threw this deal away (sanctions) for what exactly?
    Putting the Arctic more at risk,and shutting an American company out of sharing in the profits?
    Why do we do stupid stuff?
    I dunno, obviously to someone'Z it aint so $tupid...
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    As anatta's personal troll I don't care.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    I dunno, obviously to someone'Z it aint so $tupid...
    the answer is- it's Russiaphobia at work
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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    how are those Crimea sanctions working out? not too good 'eh?

    It's because we have this INSANE "zero sum" relationship w/Putin instead of trying some realpolitik,
    and find areas of cooperation.
    Not that I expect detente to break out - but not every damn move has to be confrontational either.

    Before the sanctions Exxon (Tillerson) partnered with Putin for Arctic drilling.
    we gave them our best high tech to use, and they were supposed to pay for it.

    That was a win/win. And it also protected the Arctic by using the very most cutting edge technology . win/win/win.

    So we threw this deal away (sanctions) for what exactly?
    Putting the Arctic more at risk,and shutting an American company out of sharing in the profits?
    Why do we do stupid stuff?
    Why did we throw the deal away?

    Great question. I bet not a single Russia-phobe can answer it.

    But we did stupid stuff because, like Trump was saying during the election, our leaders were stupid. Though 'incompetent' was the word he used.
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    Sanctions began in March 2014 following Russia's annexation of Crimea, a Black Sea peninsula that was once part of Ukraine.
    But the punishment was kicked up a notch in July with sanctions banning American companies from doing business with Russian oil and gas drillers.
    That hurt a new $723 million joint venture between Exxon and Rosneft , Russia's largest state owned oil company. This year, the two companies were to start drilling for oil in the Kara Sea, located in the Arctic Circle in northern Russia.
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapo.../#5e18391b7ff2

    Donald Trump blocks ExxonMobil from drilling for oil in Russia

    Exxonn was hoping to continue a deal with Rosneft to drill for oil in the Russian Arctic
    Donald Trump’s administration has refused to allow US oil company ExxonMobil to drill for oil in Russia.

    US Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin said the government would not be allowing the oil giant to bypass sanctions on Russia that forbid US firms from working with their Russian counterparts.
    Mr Trump and his team have come under intense pressure over their alleged links with Russia.
    he FBI and a number of congressional committees are currently investigating allegations that members of Mr Trump’s team colluded with Russian officials to try to influence the outcome of the US presidential election. Mr Trump has consistently dismissed the claims
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7696841.html

    ^ the result of Russiaphobia..Trump is so hamstrung politically he can't give a waiver
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    Why the Kremlin is not very concerned with energy sanctions
    The new sanctions prohibit the West’s largest oil companies, including America’s ExxonMobil, Anglo-Dutch Shell, France’s Total, and Norway’s Statoil, from partnering with Russia in deep-sea and shale prospecting projects, as well as upstream operations in the Arctic.
    They also mean that Western companies will be forced to halt exports to Russia of high tech equipment used in oil exploration and production.
    The West’s new round of sanctions restricts access to new funding and imposes a ban on exports to Russia of certain kinds of equipment used in the exploration and production of oil and gas. They primarily affect Rosneft, which operates a number of joint projects with Western firms in the Arctic and plans to expand production there.

    The ban applies less to traditional methods of “black gold” production and more to knowledge-intensive projects: deep-sea drilling technology and equipment for the exploration and development of shale oil and the Arctic shelf. These companies are difficult to replace as partners, since they not only possess the technology itself, but also the expertise, which is especially important when operating in the Arctic’s pristine and fragile ecosystem.
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    Imposing sanctions undermines faith in the West, particularly its companies. Whereas before the Ukrainian crisis cooperation with the West was Russia’s priority, today it is looking to expand ties with other BRICS countries and the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO).

    Most marked is the turn towards China.
    Kissinger: “demonization of Vladimir Putin is not a policy; it is an alibi for the absence of one.”
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    http://www.nationalgeographic.com/ma...rcle-work-oil/
    Vladimir Putin is continuing that tradition of manifest destiny, going so far as to claim nearly half a million square miles of the Arctic Ocean. According to Russian oil and gas experts, he has little choice. Ninety percent of the nation’s estimated gas reserves and 60 percent of its oil reserves lie in the Arctic or subarctic.

    “Russia’s current predicament is very simple,” says Konstantin Simonov, director of the Moscow-based National Energy Security Fund. “Gas fields discovered in the 1960s laid the foundation for Russia’s decades-long dominance of the global natural gas market. Now these Soviet-era giants are in decline. Moving farther north into the Arctic is the next logical step.”
    It’s not an economical step right now, with oil and gas prices so low. “If you just looked at the economics of some of these projects, you’d never do it,” says James Henderson, a Russia scholar with the Oxford Institute for Energy Studies in England. “But Russia is focused on development of the far north, and the best way to do that is to encourage the oil and gas industries to go there.”

    Bovanenkovo is the first big project on the Yamal Peninsula. The most ambitious project there is the liquefied natural gas (LNG) facility at Sabetta, on the Gulf of Ob. One of the world’s largest, it’s being built by Russia’s Novatek with the help of French oil and gas giant Total and the Chinese National Petroleum Company. The Russian government is contributing a deepwater port and the services of a few of the icebreakers in its enormous fleet—40 now and 10 more in the works—to assist the dozen ice-breaking LNG tankers that are being built for the project. Putin wants those tankers moving for as much of the year as possible. Even though the $27 billion project won’t come online until at least 2018, Novatek has presold a lot of the gas.

    Russia is even more focused on Arctic oil. Production taxes and export duties on oil provide 40 percent of its government revenue (only 10 percent comes from gas), and its legendary oil fields in western Siberia are declining. So far, however, it has needed foreign technology and capital to drill offshore in the Arctic, and sanctions imposed after its intervention in Ukraine have temporarily shelved such projects. Gazprom’s Prirazlomnaya platform is the only one producing oil. But just before the sanctions took effect, ExxonMobil and Russian oil giant Rosneft drilled the world’s northernmost well, in the Kara Sea. They struck oil—an estimated 700 million barrels—but have capped the well for now.


    Roughnecks arrive by chopper for their weeks-long shifts at the Trebs and Titov oil fields in the Russian Arctic, west of the Yamal Peninsula. Traditional home of native reindeer herders, the region is now dominated by companies pumping oil and gas.

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    can Palin see it......

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    http://www.nationalgeographic.com/ma...rcle-work-oil/
    Vladimir Putin is continuing that tradition of manifest destiny, going so far as to claim nearly half a million square miles of the Arctic Ocean. According to Russian oil and gas experts, he has little choice. Ninety percent of the nation’s estimated gas reserves and 60 percent of its oil reserves lie in the Arctic or subarctic.



    It’s not an economical step right now, with oil and gas prices so low. “If you just looked at the economics of some of these projects, you’d never do it,” says James Henderson, a Russia scholar with the Oxford Institute for Energy Studies in England. “But Russia is focused on development of the far north, and the best way to do that is to encourage the oil and gas industries to go there.”

    Bovanenkovo is the first big project on the Yamal Peninsula. The most ambitious project there is the liquefied natural gas (LNG) facility at Sabetta, on the Gulf of Ob. One of the world’s largest, it’s being built by Russia’s Novatek with the help of French oil and gas giant Total and the Chinese National Petroleum Company. The Russian government is contributing a deepwater port and the services of a few of the icebreakers in its enormous fleet—40 now and 10 more in the works—to assist the dozen ice-breaking LNG tankers that are being built for the project. Putin wants those tankers moving for as much of the year as possible. Even though the $27 billion project won’t come online until at least 2018, Novatek has presold a lot of the gas.

    Russia is even more focused on Arctic oil. Production taxes and export duties on oil provide 40 percent of its government revenue (only 10 percent comes from gas), and its legendary oil fields in western Siberia are declining. So far, however, it has needed foreign technology and capital to drill offshore in the Arctic, and sanctions imposed after its intervention in Ukraine have temporarily shelved such projects. Gazprom’s Prirazlomnaya platform is the only one producing oil. But just before the sanctions took effect, ExxonMobil and Russian oil giant Rosneft drilled the world’s northernmost well, in the Kara Sea. They struck oil—an estimated 700 million barrels—but have capped the well for now.


    Roughnecks arrive by chopper for their weeks-long shifts at the Trebs and Titov oil fields in the Russian Arctic, west of the Yamal Peninsula. Traditional home of native reindeer herders, the region is now dominated by companies pumping oil and gas.
    What is rough about women in jeans? Does Russia have women soldiers?

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