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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    how can i be losing when i've addressed all your issues?

    Just saying you don't like what the Constitution says is not actually a refutation. Your argument was that the feds are limited. I agree the Constitution limits what the feds can do, or is supposed to, but they aren't limited when it comes to exercising legitimate powers. This includes providing for defense whether you like it or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guille View Post
    Just saying you don't like what the Constitution says is not actually a refutation. Your argument was that the feds are limited. I agree the Constitution limits what the feds can do, or is supposed to, but they aren't limited when it comes to exercising legitimate powers. This includes providing for defense whether you like it or not.
    ok, so they are NOT limited when it comes to exercising legitimate powers........where does the constitution specify those?
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    ok, so they are NOT limited when it comes to exercising legitimate powers........where does the constitution specify those?
    Pick up a copy, close your eyes and throw a dart at it. The whole document does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guille View Post
    Robo referenced the 12th Amendment before you joined in Mr. Helper.

    Defend that.
    How fucking pathetic asshole your only argument is pussy-whipping a fucking typo. You got nothing braindead commie!
    "Government is force by definition and corruption by nature. The bigger the government, the greater the force and the greater the corruption."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guille View Post
    Because that's what I was responding to when you decided to be Mr. Helper.
    A typo is your only argument!
    "Government is force by definition and corruption by nature. The bigger the government, the greater the force and the greater the corruption."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guille View Post
    How about some logic...assuming your brain won't explode.

    Simple question: Does the Constitution allow the federal government to provide for the national defense? This is a yes or no question.
    Whats ammater asshole, ya fishin for copout carp?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guille View Post
    What are they allowed? The Constitution doesn't mention any limits, it just says provide for defense. And that answers your question.
    "To provide" means to supply. They can only supply what they have to supply. Volunteers would never be a problem if the reason is worthy.

    Explain the 13th amendment if you can commie.
    "Government is force by definition and corruption by nature. The bigger the government, the greater the force and the greater the corruption."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guille View Post
    What are they allowed? The Constitution doesn't mention any limits, it just says provide for defense. And that answers your question.
    But the Constitution does mention limits asshole, read the 13th amendment.
    "Government is force by definition and corruption by nature. The bigger the government, the greater the force and the greater the corruption."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guille View Post
    Pick up a copy, close your eyes and throw a dart at it. The whole document does.
    so your argument is that the constitution limits the federal government....until it doesn't. but you can't show where that is...........got it.
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    As usual, Robo is a fucking idiot and 2A PUSSY has his head up his rectum.

    The Supreme Court has held, in Butler v. Perry, 240 U.S. 328 (1916), that the Thirteenth Amendment does not prohibit "enforcement of those duties which individuals owe to the state, such as services in the army, militia, on the jury, etc."

    Read it and weep, motherfuckers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    As usual, Robo is a fucking idiot and 2A PUSSY has his head up his rectum.

    The Supreme Court has held, in Butler v. Perry, 240 U.S. 328 (1916), that the Thirteenth Amendment does not prohibit "enforcement of those duties which individuals owe to the state, such as services in the army, militia, on the jury, etc."

    Read it and weep, motherfuckers.
    Where in the Constitution does it say the people OWE anything to the State asshole? The State only serves as authorized/allowed by the people. Do you know who the BOSS here really is commie asshole? Judges and Courts can also be extinguished for bad behavior and fucking over the folks moron. King George learned that lesson.
    "Government is force by definition and corruption by nature. The bigger the government, the greater the force and the greater the corruption."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robo View Post
    Why am I wrong?
    A better question would be; when are you right?

    BUT; the fact that neither of us lived through WWI, II or the Korean conflict, it is hard for us to comprehend a world where our liberty and democratic ideology are threatened with extinction and the need to defend it.

    You don't like a draft? Fine; don't serve and spend a year in prison.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guille View Post
    Pick up a copy, close your eyes and throw a dart at it. The whole document does.
    you should work on your reading comprehension. From the time of the convention to ratification, EVERY representative and commentator specifically noted in almost EVERY article and speech that the powers of the federal government were FEW and LIMITED. That is what was ratified. so instead of intimating that you have some special education on how the constitution gives the feds these all purpose powers, step up and show us the super secret document you have that james madison says HA HA, I FUCKED YOU
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    As usual, Robo is a fucking idiot and 2A PUSSY has his head up his rectum.

    The Supreme Court has held, in Butler v. Perry, 240 U.S. 328 (1916), that the Thirteenth Amendment does not prohibit "enforcement of those duties which individuals owe to the state, such as services in the army, militia, on the jury, etc."

    Read it and weep, motherfuckers.
    suck the government cock, you retarded fuckhead. you're basing your entire shit filled premise on a totalitarian court with a decisions handed down over 100 years AFTER the constitution strictly limited the federal power.
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    suck the government cock, you retarded fuckhead. you're basing your entire shit filled premise on a totalitarian court with a decisions handed down over 100 years AFTER the constitution strictly limited the federal power.
    The court was totalitarian in 1916? FDR wouldn't be making appointments for about twenty more years!

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