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    Default Ireland to recognize Palestinian state.

    Dublin's City Hall to Reportedly Fly Palestinian Flag in Gesture of Solidarity


    Last month Israeli ambassador warned Jerusalem that Ireland is close to recognizing Palestine.

    http://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-n...nians/1.781107



    Dublin will fly the Palestinian flag over City Hall for a month starting May 15 in show of solidarity, the Irish Independent reported on Monday.*
    Little by little. Feel your collars tightening , kapos and droogs ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by moon2012 View Post
    Little by little. Feel your collars tightening , kapos and droogs ?
    Virtue signalling, something you ought to know well.

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    In January 2011, Ireland accorded the Palestinian delegation in Dublin diplomatic status.[267] A few months later, their Foreign Affairs Minister stated that Ireland would "lead the charge" in recognizing Palestinian statehood, but that it would not come until the PNA was in full and sole control over its territories.[268] In October 2014, the Upper House of the Irish Parliament unanimously passed a motion calling on the Government to recognize the State of Palestine.[269] In December 2014, Lower House of Ireland's Parliament followed suit.[270]
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intern...ember_states_2


    Nearly there then. Geeez, just look at those numbers !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Milagro View Post
    Virtue signalling, something you ought to know well.

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    Should I tell him or do you want to let him know that even the Irish need someone to look down on?
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    Quote Originally Posted by moon2012 View Post
    Ireland to recognize Palestinian state.
    what's it look like.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    what's it look like.....
    Bumped for domer; er., Major Fail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moon2012 View Post
    Little by little. Feel your collars tightening , kapos and droogs ?


    My opinion on Ireland just increased exponentially.
    AMERICAN HISTORY ITSELF IS A TESTAMENT TO THE STRENGTH AND RESILIENCE OF AFRICAN PEOPLE. WE, ALONG WITH THE COURGE AND SACRIFICES OF CONSCIOUS WHITE AMERICANS, LIKE VIOLA LIUZZO, EVERETT DIRKSEN, AND MANY OTHERS, HAVE FOUGHT AND DIED TOGETHER FOR OUR FREEDOM, AND FOR OUR SURVIVAL.

    In America, rights are are not determined by what is just, fair, equitable, honest, nor by what Jesus would do. Rights are determined ONLY by what you can DEMAND.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackascoal View Post


    My opinion on Ireland just increased exponentially.
    Eamonn de Valera signed the condolence book at the German Embassy in Dublin when Hitler died in 1945.

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    Why do people support the Palestinians?
    If it is clear to me that every liberal believer in democracy and human rights should broadly support Israel - and be broadly hostile to the Palestinians - why does the world not see it that way? Why does the world support violent, intolerant, racist, Islamic religious fanatics who are fighting to set up a tribal Islamic state in which there will be no democracy and no human rights?

    It seems the Palestinians have hit all the right buttons:


    They are (allegedly) the "third world" fighting "imperialists" - a cause many people will support no matter what kind of "imperialism" is being attacked, and with no thought to what kind of state the "third world" rebels are fighting to establish.

    They are (allegedly) "non-whites" fighting "whites". The modern left, which is still in the racist world, cares primarily about crimes by "whites" or "people like us". It cares little about crimes by "non-whites". As I have argued elsewhere, this looks like anti-white racism, but is in fact just another form of anti-non-white racism, treating non-whites as if they are not adults responsible for their actions. Not criticising Palestinians or other "third world" or "non-white" peoples does not show how enlightened you are. It shows how racist you are.

    Of course, to think of this conflict as "non-whites" versus "whites" is actually nonsense. Israelis comes from all over the world, including all over the Middle East (from which they were expelled), and including places like Ethiopia. But for racists the world over (which includes most of the western left), all Israelis are honorary "whites".

    They are (allegedly) the "poor" fighting the "rich". The fact that it is their own fault that they are poor, and the fact that the Israelis deserve all of their wealth because they have worked hard to create it, is neither here nor there.

    They are fighting against Jews - always a popular target throughout history. The world has not changed that much. Prejudices don't die overnight. After Auschwitz, the world should have changed forever. But it didn't.

    If a second Holocaust ever happened, the world's reaction would be similar to the first one. If its Islamic enemies ever defeated Israel, and the Jews were being rounded up to be gassed in concentration camps, the entire Muslim world would cheer. The western left would explain how the Jews were responsible, for having generated such hatred. The EU and UN would hem and haw and do nothing. Only America and Britain and a few others would try to stop it. How can anyone doubt the above would be the case.

    They are Muslim, giving them a sympathetic constituency of 1 billion people. Muslims tend to sympathise with Muslims engaged in conflict with non-Muslims worldwide. Christians aren't like this. For example, the genocide of Christians in the Sudan is generally a matter of indifference to western Christians, who are interested in other issues. See the silence of the Archbishop of Canterbury on the topic of the persecution of third world Christians.

    If the Palestinians were Christian, nobody would support them. Certainly the Islamic world wouldn't. And if they were fundamentalist Christian, the western left would despise them - and probably even support the Israelis. But, for some reason, fundamentalist Islam is alright with the western left.

    They are incredibly violent and barbaric, with savage attacks against the most defenceless of civilians, such as children. Due to the strange nature of humans, this gets them more support, not less. If they engaged in peaceful protest, nobody in the world would pay them much attention. But no one can ignore young people who suicide bomb restaurants and shoot toddlers.

    The Palestinians are not the most oppressed people on the planet. Far from it. There are dozens of far more oppressed peoples and hundreds of more worthwhile causes in the world. What is special about the Palestinians is that they are the most violent and barbaric of all (allegedly) "oppressed" peoples on the planet. Hence - due to the strange nature of humans - they get more attention and more support worldwide.

    They are fighting a democracy. A democracy gives open access to journalists and is a nice comfortable place for them to report from (good hotels, shops, restaurants, Internet access, etc.). Also, the journalist can attack the democracy in print as much as he likes without fear. By contrast, non-democracies allow little or no access, facilities are primitive and unpleasant, and journalists live in fear of arrest or even death. Hence, lots of journalists in Israel. Hardly any in the Sudan or North Korea. Hence, a war against a democracy will be covered in a lot more detail than a war against a non-democracy. Hence, the democracy will be criticised for its (minor) crimes a lot more than non-democracies committing really serious crimes. Israel gets more criticism than even countries that commit large-scale genocide.

    They are fighting a democracy. A non-democracy would simply exterminate or ethnically cleanse them, and the conflict would soon come to an end and be forgotten by everyone except historians. Who in the world talks about the Armenians now? Or even Bangladesh or Biafra? Most young people have never even heard of these - just as Rwanda will soon be forgotten. But a democracy like Israel cannot simply exterminate its enemy and end the conflict. It has to be far more restrained, and so the conflict goes on and on for years.



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    It isn't just a matter of ' recognizing ' the Palestinian state. The United Nations already recognizes it as a non-member state. The aim is to enable it to function as a viable and contiguous state- as was always intended, even by the scurrilous British when they washed their hands of the problem they had created in 1947.
    The United Nations - and international law- states clearly that the occupation is illegal. An overwhelming majority of countries recognize the Palestinian state on the pre-1967 borders. The job in hand is to ensure that Israel complies with the same laws that apply to the rest of us. No more free passes for Zionists. In fact, many of them have a date with judges at The Hague

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    Quote Originally Posted by moon2012 View Post
    It isn't just a matter of ' recognizing ' the Palestinian state. The United Nations already recognizes it as a non-member state. The aim is to enable it to function as a viable and contiguous state- as was always intended, even by the scurrilous British when they washed their hands of the problem they had created in 1947.
    The United Nations - and international law- states clearly that the occupation is illegal. An overwhelming majority of countries recognize the Palestinian state on the pre-1967 borders. The job in hand is to ensure that Israel complies with the same laws that apply to the rest of us. No more free passes for Zionists. In fact, many of them have a date with judges at The Hague

    If they wanted to keep those borders, then the probably shouldn't have started the 6 day war, in 1967.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chlorate View Post
    I'm sure Palestine will be just as smashing a success as most other countries run by Muslims.
    Hamas and the PA will just end up killing each other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moon2012 View Post
    Little by little. Feel your collars tightening , kapos and droogs ?
    PRAISE ALLAH!!!

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