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    Epicurean paradox[edit]
    The "Epicurean paradox" or "Riddle of Epicurus" is a version of the problem of evil. Lactantius attributes this trilemma to Epicurus in De Ira Dei:
    God, he says, either wishes to take away evils, and is unable; or He is able, and is unwilling; or He is neither willing nor able, or He is both willing and able. If He is willing and is unable, He is feeble, which is not in accordance with the character of God; if He is able and unwilling, He is envious, which is equally at variance with God; if He is neither willing nor able, He is both envious and feeble, and therefore not God; if He is both willing and able, which alone is suitable to God, from what source then are evils? Or why does He not remove them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    Epicurean paradox[edit]
    The "Epicurean paradox" or "Riddle of Epicurus" is a version of the problem of evil. Lactantius attributes this trilemma to Epicurus in De Ira Dei:
    God, he says, either wishes to take away evils, and is unable; or He is able, and is unwilling; or He is neither willing nor able, or He is both willing and able. If He is willing and is unable, He is feeble, which is not in accordance with the character of God; if He is able and unwilling, He is envious, which is equally at variance with God; if He is neither willing nor able, He is both envious and feeble, and therefore not God; if He is both willing and able, which alone is suitable to God, from what source then are evils? Or why does He not remove them?
    "He" is not human and does not operate on human terms. That's the answer to your paradox.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    In as much as good is a human concept, yes. God simply is.
    Then you are concluding one of three possibilities;
    #1. Good and evil do not exist.
    #2. God is neither omnipotent or omniscient.
    #3. God is indifferent to good and evil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    I believe that human kind's concept of the universe is so minuscule that understanding about an omniscient existing is very difficult for us to comprehend in human terms. Its more a feeling that we know deep inside when we are in touch with our soul than something that can be expressed in human terms.

    I believe that is what Christianity is getting at with the idea that Jesus was sent by God to bring a connection to God. The message of Jesus is a mystical connection to God and eternal life beyond what our human brain can comprehend, the spirit that joins with God when we leave our body and are no longer separate beings.
    Then you're saying we are incapable of understanding the nature of good and evil?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mott the Hoople View Post
    Then you are concluding one of three possibilities;
    #1. Good and evil do not exist.
    #2. God is neither omnipotent or omniscient.
    #3. God is indifferent to good and evil.
    The human concept of good and evil does not exist from the perspective of An omniscient being. Good and evil as a human concept is based on human ego and human emotion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mott the Hoople View Post
    Then you're saying we are incapable of understanding the nature of good and evil?
    If good and evil exist to a being that is omniscient, I believe it is beyond our grasp. It is clear to me that good things are often the result of things we perceive as evil, for example.

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    Another basis for my belief is that I have never experienced anything that was pure evil or pure good. There is a ying and yang to everything

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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then He is not omnipotent.

    Is He able, but not willing? Then He is malevolent.

    Is He both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?

    Is He neither able nor willing? Then why call Him God?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mott the Hoople View Post
    Then you are concluding one of three possibilities;
    #1. Good and evil do not exist.
    #2. God is neither omnipotent or omniscient.
    #3. God is indifferent to good and evil.
    You left out the idea of free will and therefore WE are responsible, regarding good and evil; but that would mean that people would have to act and accept responsibility for what they do or don't do.
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    If a loving God sends people to hell forever for "sins" committed in a blip of time, I'm sorry, that is evil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Queen Snowflake View Post
    If a loving God sends people to hell forever for "sins" committed in a blip of time, I'm sorry, that is evil.
    YEAH, people are never responsible for what they do (in a blip of time); because that would mean taking responsibility for what they might do or have done.

    Or maybe the person should love themselves and not commit their "sins".
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    the only unforgivable sin is a sin which has not been atoned for by the death of Jesus; for the wages of sin is death... https://www.gotquestions.org/Romans-road-salvation.html. if people carry on as if The Lord Jesus is a "ghost" or "monster" those people have very little chance of being forgiven.
    Even so, Come, Lord Jesus
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    Quote Originally Posted by USFREEDOM911 View Post
    Free will, you dumb ass; but then you don't believe in people being able to think and act by themselves, because you're a sheep.

    I've bee down this free will path with you morons countless times. It's nothing more than a copout for you idiots to explain your impotent god.

    If you have your omnipotent, omniscient, omnibenevolent god, he/she/it knows all that there has been or will be past, parent and future. Your free will goes right into the crapper if there exists that being that will knows what your future will be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mott the Hoople View Post
    Then you are concluding one of three possibilities;
    #1. Good and evil do not exist.
    #2. God is neither omnipotent or omniscient.
    #3. God is indifferent to good and evil.
    I believe a deity that actually existed would certainly be indifferent to any human standard for "good" or "evil"....

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