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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    the ACA was just another step towards socialism, which inevitably devolves society in to two classes. the haves and the have nots. that is the goal of socialism. it's their game and you have no cards to play.
    That's bullshit, we have had the NHS since 1948. We also have many private healthcare companies. I used to have private health cover when I worked at T-Mobile and my oldest son has it at Cisco and my youngest also at Expedia.

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    Obamacare is not collapsing ...
    That is a right wing talk-show myth...
    The only thing that can replace it is single payer ...
    Medicare for all...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurmugeon View Post
    And even with the high taxes, premiums, deductables, and co-payments...

    ... with open borders, it will go bankrupt in short order. In less than a decade, the best of Single Payers systems will be in collapse, just like the ACA is now!

    Because you cannot give away something of high value and high cost, to anyone and everyone in the world, and not go Bankrupt!

    But that is why the Far-Lefties are doing it!

    They are Counting on the Single Payer System Collapsing just like they are counting on the ACA collapsing to get the single payer system in place!

    So, 1000 Bonus Points if you figure out WHY the Far-Lefties WANT the American Single Payer system to Collapse under the weight of open border costs!?

    Who on this forum has enough insight to see it ?!

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    We have had the NHS since 1948 and I don't think there was ever a year when it wasn't predicted to collapse. We spend one third per person on healthcare as you do in the US and cover everybody, no exceptions. My main gripe with that is health tourism, as we get people coming here specifically because of our generosity. This woman was turned away at the US border but the NHS picked the tab as they are honour bound to help anyone who needs emergency care.

    http://metro.co.uk/2017/02/01/nigeri...00000-6419560/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milagro View Post
    That's bullshit, we have had the NHS since 1948. We also have many private healthcare companies. I used to have private health cover when i worked at T-Mobile and my son has it at Cisco in London.

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    Socialist...
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    I can`t believe they didn`t let the President Trump flush it and start with something better
    I agree... Nor do I think he and most conservatives understand where this is all really going...

    WHY does the Left not care than the Single Payer Health Care system they're working so damn hard to get established is going to fiscally collapse under the fiscal burden of Open-Borders!?

    It is essential that those of the Non-Far-Left understand this thang!

    I'll give you hint, .... it is a very Cloward-Piven Strategy kind of Thang.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    World wide globalism.
    Yes! World Wide Global Government Based on the U.N.!

    You see, they plan to use the Collapse of the American Single Payer System, to justify and predicate the creation of a world government tax system, and from it, One World Government, to cover the costs to Americans and their health care system which is caring for the Catastrophically-Ill people from all over the world, due to America's Open-Borders.

    Americans will have no choice but to accept the new World-Tax and Government system, to bail out their crippled and bankrupt Single Payer HealthCare system.

    The two; Single Payer HealthCare, used in combination with Open-Borders, will make common, middle class Americans DEMAND a World Tax system to pay for the costs of caring for the World's Sick People, who have flocked to America!

    They are going to use and abuse the Open-Borders Collaspe of the American Single Payer System, in much the same way that they are using the Collapse of the ACA to create the Single Payer System. Give them credit for Consistency.

    BTW, ObamaCareFail, you are the first person on any forum to fully see it! Here, 1000 Bonus Points!

    That is the long range plans of the Far-Left, for the Single Payer HealthCare system.

    Nothing less than World Socialist Domination!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milagro View Post
    That's bullshit, we have had the NHS since 1948. We also have many private healthcare companies. I used to have private health cover when I worked at T-Mobile and my oldest son has it at Cisco and my youngest also at Expedia.
    what the hell does private health care coverage have to do with socialism?????
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurmugeon View Post
    Yes! World Wide Global Government Based on the U.N.!

    You see, they plan to use the Collapse of the American Single Payer System, to justify and predicate the creation of a world government tax system, and from it, One World Government, to cover the costs to Americans and their health care system which is caring for the Catastrophically-Ill people from all over the world, due to America's Open-Borders.

    Americans will have no choice but to accept the new World-Tax and Government system, to bail out their crippled and bankrupt Single Payer HealthCare system.

    The two; Single Payer HealthCare, used in combination with Open-Borders, will make common, middle class Americans DEMAND a World Tax system to pay for the costs of caring for the World's Sick People, who have flocked to America!

    They are going to use and abuse the Open-Borders Collaspe of the American Single Payer System, in much the same way that they are using the Collapse of the ACA to create the Single Payer System. Give them credit for Consistency.

    BTW, ObamaCareFail, you are the first person on any forum to fully see it! Here, 1000 Bonus Points!

    That is the long range plans of the Far-Left, for the Single Payer HealthCare system.

    Nothing less than World Socialist Domination!

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    In his final address to the U.N., President Obama stated that America must surrender its soveriegnty to Global Government, and he made financial appeal reasons for doing so:

    http://awarenessact.com/obama-americ...ld-government/

    Obama: America Must Surrender Sovereignty, Embrace One World Government


    In his last address to the United Nations Tuesday, President Barack
    Obama urged citizens to embrace a One World Government. These
    politicians really are beginning to sound like broken records, and what
    is even worse, they are not even trying to hide their plans anymore;
    people just are not paying attention.

    In addition to praising the bankster loan shark operations run out of
    the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund, Obama called for
    “global integration,” in other words, a one world government.
    ...
    Also...

    http://www.blacklistednews.com/Obama...38/38/Y/M.html

    Obama: America Must Surrender Sovereignty, Embrace One World Government

    Published: September 22, 2016

    Earlier this week Barack Obama delivered his final United Nations speech.

    In addition to praising the bankster loan shark operations run out of
    the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund, Obama called for
    “global integration,” code for a one-world government.

    “I believe that at this moment we all face a choice. We can choose to
    press forward with a better model of cooperation and integration. Or we
    can retreat into a world sharply divided, and ultimately in conflict,
    along age-old lines of nation and tribe and race and religion,” he said.

    In short, Obama has renewed the call to end national sovereignty.



    ...
    Here is the complete Transcript of Obama's final U.N. Speech:

    https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov...neral-assembly

    eptember 20, 2016





    Address by President Obama to the 71st Session of the United Nations General Assembly






    The United Nations

    New York, New York


    10:29 A.M. EDT

    PRESIDENT OBAMA: Mr. President; Mr. Secretary General; fellow
    delegates; ladies and gentlemen: As I address this hall as President
    for the final time, let me recount the progress that we’ve made these
    last eight years.


    From the depths of the greatest financial crisis of our time, we
    coordinated our response to avoid further catastrophe and return the
    global economy to growth. We’ve taken away terrorist safe havens,
    strengthened the nonproliferation regime, resolved the Iranian nuclear
    issue through diplomacy. We opened relations with Cuba, helped Colombia
    end Latin America’s longest war, and we welcome a democratically
    elected leader of Myanmar to this Assembly. Our assistance is helping
    people feed themselves, care for the sick, power communities across
    Africa, and promote models of development rather than dependence. And
    we have made international institutions like the World Bank and the
    International Monetary Fund more representative, while establishing a
    framework to protect our planet from the ravages of climate change.


    This is important work. It has made a real difference in the lives of
    our people. And it could not have happened had we not worked together.
    And yet, around the globe we are seeing the same forces of global
    integration that have made us interdependent also expose deep fault
    lines in the existing international order.
    We see it in the headlines every day. Around the world, refugees flow across borders in flight from brutal conflict. Financial disruptions continue to weigh upon our workers and entire communities. Across vast swaths of the Middle East, basic security, basic order has broken down. We see too many governments muzzling journalists, and quashing dissent, and censoring the flow of information. Terrorist networks use social media to...
    The Far-Lefties are not making a big secret about their plans...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    what the hell does private health care coverage have to do with socialism?????
    Socialism is all around you brother .. always has been, always will be.

    You use it, and your dependence on it will increase with your age.

    Socialism is the only thing keeping millions of Americans alive .. and you have a problem with that.
    AMERICAN HISTORY ITSELF IS A TESTAMENT TO THE STRENGTH AND RESILIENCE OF AFRICAN PEOPLE. WE, ALONG WITH THE COURGE AND SACRIFICES OF CONSCIOUS WHITE AMERICANS, LIKE VIOLA LIUZZO, EVERETT DIRKSEN, AND MANY OTHERS, HAVE FOUGHT AND DIED TOGETHER FOR OUR FREEDOM, AND FOR OUR SURVIVAL.

    In America, rights are are not determined by what is just, fair, equitable, honest, nor by what Jesus would do. Rights are determined ONLY by what you can DEMAND.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackascoal View Post
    Socialism is all around you brother .. always has been, always will be.

    You use it, and your dependence on it will increase with your age.

    Socialism is the only thing keeping millions of Americans alive .. and you have a problem with that.
    yes, I do. socialism has been forced upon us by a government that mandates control over our lives. a large majority of a persons 'retirement' is used up in bureaucratic salaries and admin costs, when it could have been put to better use by the individuals themselves. why do you NOT have a problem with that?
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    yes, I do. socialism has been forced upon us by a government that mandates control over our lives. a large majority of a persons 'retirement' is used up in bureaucratic salaries and admin costs, when it could have been put to better use by the individuals themselves. why do you NOT have a problem with that?
    Because that's not reality.

    How much do you think the average person has in the bank right now?

    Are you of the opinion that a little more money would change their financial circumstances?

    By retirement age, that person has little to nothing to retire on .. and what makes you think any investments along the way would prove successful? Even successful people often lose it all.

    The purpose of government is the best interests of the whole, not the individual.

    Socialism is the only thing keeping millions of Americans alive. The so-called 'free market' doesn't give a rats ass about their lives.
    AMERICAN HISTORY ITSELF IS A TESTAMENT TO THE STRENGTH AND RESILIENCE OF AFRICAN PEOPLE. WE, ALONG WITH THE COURGE AND SACRIFICES OF CONSCIOUS WHITE AMERICANS, LIKE VIOLA LIUZZO, EVERETT DIRKSEN, AND MANY OTHERS, HAVE FOUGHT AND DIED TOGETHER FOR OUR FREEDOM, AND FOR OUR SURVIVAL.

    In America, rights are are not determined by what is just, fair, equitable, honest, nor by what Jesus would do. Rights are determined ONLY by what you can DEMAND.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackascoal View Post
    Because that's not reality.

    How much do you think the average person has in the bank right now?
    and why do you think that is? over taxation. The feds take 18 to 30%. The state takes between 13 and 25. property taxes can take about 10% of a persons income yearly. how does that allow anyone to save money?

    Quote Originally Posted by blackascoal View Post
    Are you of the opinion that a little more money would change their financial circumstances?
    see above
    Quote Originally Posted by blackascoal View Post
    By retirement age, that person has little to nothing to retire on .. and what makes you think any investments along the way would prove successful? Even successful people often lose it all.
    1. i've seen people become moderately successful in investing. 2. why do you think the government created wall street in the first place?

    Quote Originally Posted by blackascoal View Post
    The purpose of government is the best interests of the whole, not the individual.
    better that 1,000 die in poverty than 10 million? I'd rebel against that type of barbarism as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by blackascoal View Post
    Socialism is the only thing keeping millions of Americans alive. The so-called 'free market' doesn't give a rats ass about their lives.
    socialism effectively brainwashes the naive millions with the hopes that they'll be offered a chance at better living, while barely surviving, allowing the elitists to laugh all the way to the bank with the millions bilked from the brainwashed.
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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