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ObamaCare is succeeding at all of its primary goals!
It is sad to see, and many Americans will pay horribly for the Democrats actions in creating the ACA, but it doing EXACTLY what it is was designed to do!
And it will only get allot worse!
https://www.forbes.com/sites/sallypi.../#69aeb0485d5b
ObamaCare is succeeding in all four of its primary goals:
1] Destroy the <---2008 Health Insurance and Care system which hundreds of millions of American used and relied upon for decades... because it was in the way!
2] Give better health care to illegal immigrants and transgenerational welfare receptiants, than recieved by the average, WORKING, Middle class American!
3] Preventing the creation of any NEW and functional health care system, based on the <----2008 type of concepts, from being re-implemented!
4] ObamaCare is going bankrupt, and about to completely collapse and leave 100s of Millions of Americans with no health care at all... as it was always designed to do!
ObamaCare is NOT, and never was designed to be a functional, working, health care or health insurance system!
ObamaCare is and has always been a form of Political and Governmental Sabotage!
ObamaCare has never been intended as a solution, is a deliberately created Health Care Crisis!
ObamaCare is and always has been a WRECKING BALL!
ObamaCare is about destroyed what worked pretty well for most Americans, to make a Government Controlled Single Payer System the ONLY OPTION!
Have you figured out your Option-Out of the coming disaster?
GOD DAMN THE LEFT!
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Very true. I said so from the beginning
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Obama's only goal was to tear the U.S. apart.
Hypocrisy =Originally Posted by Jarod
Kurmugeon (03-25-2017)
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can you imagine some low class lever puller being able to be in the same line as you when it comes to important medical care? single payer sucks
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tsuke (03-27-2017)
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That's what we'd have if Trump had a Dem Congress. He may eventually get a suitably Trumpian Republican Congress for that.
"It [the draft] is duty rather than slavery. I part with the author on the caviler idea that individual freedom (whatever that may be to the person) leads to nirvana, anyone older that 12 knows that is BS."
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the ACA was just another step towards socialism, which inevitably devolves society in to two classes. the haves and the have nots. that is the goal of socialism. it's their game and you have no cards to play.
A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.
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1) Short memonry, the preACA health care system sucked, it was the leading cause of bankruptcy in the US, and President's had been attempting to fix it going back to T. Rooseveld
2) And given that Obamacare only relates to approximately 8% of the nation those "middle class Americans" your are taking about must have some pretty crappy insurance
3) One can always come up with a new alternative, but America obviously haven't seen a better one yet
4) It isn't collapsing, turn off your radio, and how a program affecting a small percentage of Americans leaves the rest of the nation without insurance doesn't even make sense
All you have done is offer perfect examples of the fact that conservatives as yourself know just about nothing outside of radio rhetoric as it applies to the ACA
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Socialism devolves "society in to two classes. the haves and the have nots?" You are like really wrong, did you skip Government class in High School?
The conservative bitch on Socialism is that it makes everyone the same, breeds mediocrity, takes away individual freedom, and now your telling us it devolves "society in to two classes. the haves and the have nots?"
Very strange
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It was designed to fail by 2016 and it did.
Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
empathy for animal suffering can lack compassion for unborn children who experience lethal violence and excruciating
pain in abortion.
Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
which has begun. To abort life is to end it.
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Thanks Rush
rebel
high school classes only teach you want they want you to know. real world education tells us that socialist societies devolved in to haves and have nots. those in positions of power and those with wealth will ALWAYS ensure that they are the priority in any societal system. to believe otherwise makes you a fool.
I'm giving you the Libertarian take on socialism. in other words, the truth.
A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.
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I think it will take a long time to get to single payer. A lot of people are talking about it now, which is a huge step forward, but there is way too much money in healthcare.And even with the high taxes, premiums, deductables, and co-payments...People have been talking for it most of my life. However they do not represent the majority of Americans. That's why we do not have a single payer system now. Obamacare is is and always has been unpopular,. Single payer would be even more unpopular. All of the single payer proponents think it would be free healthcare at the point of service. It would not be. You would still pay premiums and face decutibles and co-payements. It would be much basically be medicare. And it would come with waiting lists and doctor shortages.
... with open borders, it will go bankrupt in short order. In less than a decade, the best of Single Payers systems will be in collapse, just like the ACA is now!
Because you cannot give away something of high value and high cost, to anyone and everyone in the world, and not go Bankrupt!
But that is why the Far-Lefties are doing it!
They are Counting on the Single Payer System Collapsing just like they are counting on the ACA collapsing to get the single payer system in place!
So, 1000 Bonus Points if you figure out WHY the Far-Lefties WANT the American Single Payer system to Collapse under the weight of open border costs!?
Who on this forum has enough insight to see it ?!
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Power.
Cause enough chaos, division and destruction big gubment can come along and play the role of "savior'.
"Don't worry...everything will be alright...we'll take care of you...we'll meet all your needs...we'll restore peace." (they might say)
They want the people dependent on them, they stay in office, retain control and keep their wallets fat.
Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
empathy for animal suffering can lack compassion for unborn children who experience lethal violence and excruciating
pain in abortion.
Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
which has begun. To abort life is to end it.
anatta (03-25-2017)
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Yes! ... ObamaCare is designed as one of several stepping stone to destroy America...I said so from day one although I was on another forum at the time. ObamaCare is going to do more to destroy America than even the Moslems.
But WHY are the Lefties planning on and even critically counting on the eventual Collapse of an American Single Payer Health Care system from the fiscal burdens placed on it from Open-Borders?!!
I spend allot of time, as an anonymous fly on the wall, in Liberal/Progressive ONLY chat rooms, forums, and Blogs.
They KNOW that any American Single Payer Health care system is going to fail under the Fiscal Burdens of Open-Borders, but they're advocating Open-Borders all the same!
They are counting on the destruction of the Single Payer Health Care system they are working so hard to create! WHY?!
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I don't know if you are trolling, probably not, in which case you're an elitist fuck. Most big companies in this country offer private healthcare as part of the employment package. I had it at T-Mobile and both my son's have it, bet you didn't know that!!
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