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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    Trump said day 1 - immediately. He said it would be "easy." He said he was a master deal-maker, and knew how to negotiate these things.

    Then, he said healthcare was really complicated, and tried to blame a party that has no power anywhere for the fact that he couldn't bring Republicans together.

    No spinning this one, I'm afraid. Trump's first bigtime, high-profile legislation - and he got embarrassed. He is no longer the "winning" guy. He's a loser.
    lets be honest.....if it had passed this week you would still have called him a loser........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    Trump couldn't get the votes when his party controls everything.

    He failed.
    obama and his party gave us obama care when his party controlled everything......that was a bigger failure........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Queen Snowflake View Post
    Oh, it's dead unless they pass single payer. They have had over 20 years to come up with something, more recently seven years, and they haven't.
    obamacare isn't something......its a failing disaster......

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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    "The buck stops here" ... NOT!
    still have 96 cents in change.....the buck hasn't stopped.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    I'm starting to think you really believe that.

    He's a buffoon, Grind. He's not the mastermind you keep portraying.
    I think its more likely that you are a buffoon than that Trump is.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom is a bogman View Post
    read my bio in my sig. I am a genius on this stuff, always way ahead of the likes of you. High profile? You continually underestimate the short attention span of the average american.
    because he's average and has a short attention span.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackascoal View Post
    :0) Bullshit.

    Did you say that Trump is a bubbling fool who will greatly increase democratic chances in the midterms and beyond?

    I did.

    Did you say that Trump Is the best thing that could have happened for the Democratic Party?

    I did.

    The nonsense you posted about Trump and the 'long game' is hilarious.
    lol.....you think what it has done the last 90 days is GOOD for the demmycrat party?.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yaya View Post
    He made campaign promises that this was the first thing he would do or get done very soon. Why would he make those promises only to play a long game?
    if he didn't get it done in the short game......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    Well, all kinds of fun predictions on this thread.

    But really, the weirdest revelation is that Grind really does believe that Trump is some kind of mad genius.

    People said the same shite about Hitler. And no - I'm not comparing Trump to Hitler. But it's just a similar phenomenon. Someone charismatic who seems to have a strategy for awhile, until it turns out he's just a delusional, lying dope.

    That ain't nothing to worship.
    lol....."I'm not comparing him to Hitler but look!....Hitler"..........it takes no prophetic powers to know that you will discredit whatever happens....../yawn......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom is a bogman View Post
    trump turned a million dollars into a billion dollar empire becoming one of the richest real estate gurus in the history of the world. Imagine the effort it would take just to double that amount of money with investing. think he stumbled into that?
    actually, that's a failure because he didn't do it within 60 days......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom is a bogman View Post
    read my bio in my sig. I am a genius on this stuff, always way ahead of the likes of you. High profile? You continually underestimate the short attention span of the average american.
    Some self proclaimed genius. Until Trump came along the only thing political you ever discussed was gun control and weed. Now I will admit that your George Zimmerman and Sandy Hook posts were some of the best comedy ever produced on JPP, even if advocating the mass executions of first graders was a bit over the top and your Zimmerman fetish kinda creepy, genius it is not.

    Ok...so you called a statistical outlier when Trump got elected. Big deal. That doesn't make you a genius. You may actually get laid some day. That won't make you a Casanova either.
    You're Never Alone With A Schizophrenic!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mott the Hoople View Post
    Agreed. Trump may have made a mistake and, if he still chooses to make repeal/reform a priority, then he can start working with stakeholders outside of government to gain information on how that reform or new legislation should take shape, as well as, develop a broader level of support.

    Then again he may drop it for greener pastures with little harm done to his reputation.
    A new cadre of yes men perhaps??
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    Quote Originally Posted by Milagro View Post
    Maybe Trump isn't that smart but Bannon is, I am sure you know that already.

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    oh what do you know, media outlets once again behind my genius analysis...they are starting to scratch their heads a little...

    Yes, AHCA failure is a failure for the president, but it’s much more a failure for House leadership and Paul Ryan. They had seven years to prepare for this moment, and they failed to do so sufficiently.

    Finally, for as much as this is a defeat for the White House, there is now a significant opening for Trump and his team to seize control of the agenda and the process going forward. This could be good or bad for conservatives, but it would definitely push the current leadership to the side. We’ll have to wait and see if that happens. But perhaps that’s what Steve Bannon wanted all along.


    http://thefederalist.com/2017/03/24/failure-of-health-care-bill-is-indictment-of-gop-leadership/


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    Grind is basically right
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    Grind’s got you beat by miles. He is very intelligent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    You guys are really milking that one. Especially since I said a week before the election that Hillary would lose.

    Oh, and she won nationally by 3 million votes, right?
    But right before election night, you changed it back to Hillary would win. Who cares if a week before you changed your mind to Hillary would lose, your last prediction was that she would win and you've lied about it.

    Oh, and she didn't win anything nationally. She lost the national election, period.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Milagro View Post
    He hasn't failed in the least ffs, it's just that you guys have the attention span of a gnat.

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    He lost a lot of political capital over this, how is that not a failure?

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