How Trump Lost On Health Care

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Nobody is "worshiping" Trump, Things.. Seriously. I didn't want the guy and wrongly predicted that he wouldn't even be the nominee, mostly based on my belief that the man is stuck in reality TV clown mode and only registered as a republican because he wanted to run and the Ds insisted on HillBillary.

I get that. Maybe "worship" is strong, but unless Grind is trolling (which is a possibility), the idea that Trump has some kind of genius master plan, and that losing this week's vote was part of it, is close to worship, imo.

It's spin that Trump doesn't deserve. He knows how to manipulate a crowd, but he doesn't have ANY plan whatsoever. He's in over his head.

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I get that. Maybe "worship" is strong, but unless Grind is trolling (which is a possibility), the idea that Trump has some kind of genius master plan, and that losing this week's vote was part of it, is close to worship, imo.

It's spin that Trump doesn't deserve. He knows how to manipulate a crowd, but he doesn't have ANY plan whatsoever. He's in over his head.

Well, we'll just have to vote on it; so we can see what's in it.

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Well, all kinds of fun predictions on this thread.

But really, the weirdest revelation is that Grind really does believe that Trump is some kind of mad genius.

People said the same shite about Hitler. And no - I'm not comparing Trump to Hitler. But it's just a similar phenomenon. Someone charismatic who seems to have a strategy for awhile, until it turns out he's just a delusional, lying dope.

That ain't nothing to worship.

trump turned a million dollars into a billion dollar empire becoming one of the richest real estate gurus in the history of the world. Imagine the effort it would take just to double that amount of money with investing. think he stumbled into that?

then he took on the political establishment with a stacked field and demolished them, candidates like jeb with a 100 million dollar war chest. The vast majority of the media was against him and he clobbered his way through that as well.

He managed to get Michigan, penn, and Wisconsin when no other republican could do that in decades. He did this by appealing to poor working class white people when he is a billionaire from new york.

He dabbles in bizarre shenanigans all the time to keep bamboozling the media, look up the whole john miller thing.



Not to mention likely being the one that made maddow look like a complete dumbass with the recent tax thing.

Trump is absolutely a genius.

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Trump said day 1 - immediately. He said it would be "easy." He said he was a master deal-maker, and knew how to negotiate these things.

Then, he said healthcare was really complicated, and tried to blame a party that has no power anywhere for the fact that he couldn't bring Republicans together.

No spinning this one, I'm afraid. Trump's first bigtime, high-profile legislation - and he got embarrassed. He is no longer the "winning" guy. He's a loser.

It doesn't matter what Trump said. He's only two months in, and government is a whole different animal. Damo has the right take on this.

Go watch election night videos and cry yourself to sleep.

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So trump apparently made a tweet earlier today:



What does she talk about tonight?

Start @ 1:00



well well well, she opens her broadcast with a complete slam of paul ryan asking him to step down, and trump hours before it airs makes sure everyone tunes into her show tonight to hear it.

hmm.

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See, Damo?

That IS worship.

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And your diagnosis is partisan-induced myopia lol.

In the long view [the only view that matters] the no-vote on the bill may be a net plus for healthcare. Or it could go the other way.

You have no idea which it will be.

Oh no. Thingy is one of the great political prognosticators of our time. He is NEVER wrong about anything. Well except the election outcome.

What you are witnessing from lefties is just sour grapes behavior because they are still bitter that their candidate lost. So they will jump on ANYTHING to try to claim some political "I told ya so"

The fact is Ryan's plan was a joke. It deserved to die. Ryan needs to be removed as Speaker

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Oh no. Thingy is one of the great political prognosticators of our time. He is NEVER wrong about anything. Well except the election outcome.

What you are witnessing from lefties is just sour grapes behavior because they are still bitter that their candidate lost. So they will jump on ANYTHING to try to claim some political "I told ya so"

The fact is Ryan's plan was a joke. It deserved to die. Ryan needs to be removed as Speaker

You guys are really milking that one. Especially since I said a week before the election that Hillary would lose.

Oh, and she won nationally by 3 million votes, right?

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You guys are really milking that one. Especially since I said a week before the election that Hillary would lose.

Oh, and she won nationally by 3 million votes, right?

And what did she win, a participation trophy?

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Trump is just a shitty negotiator...
He thought he could strong arm the repubs who opposed Ryan's plan by telling them he would bad mouth them to their constituency and they said you are at 37%...Why the fuck should we be afraid of you?

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Trump doesn't want to lose a game of tiddlywinks - much less a high-profile legislative battle that he predicted would be easy for months.

You don't understand psychology if you can't see that about his ego.

This wasn't part of a long-term strategy. Trump thought he would win, and he didn't.

trump took multiple bankrupcies. That would show he is ok with short term losses. If he was as you described he would have continued to funnel money into losing projects.

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trump took multiple bankrupcies. That would show he is ok with short term losses. If he was as you described he would have continued to funnel money into losing projects.

Oh...you still think government is like real estate?

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LOL Sure he did Grind. Sure he did.

Maybe Trump isn't that smart but Bannon is, I am sure you know that already.

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Why do you worship Trump so much?

There is no long game here, he failed. He would never do a business deal like this.

He hasn't failed in the least ffs, it's just that you guys have the attention span of a gnat.

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Well, all kinds of fun predictions on this thread.

But really, the weirdest revelation is that Grind really does believe that Trump is some kind of mad genius.

People said the same shite about Hitler. And no - I'm not comparing Trump to Hitler. But it's just a similar phenomenon. Someone charismatic who seems to have a strategy for awhile, until it turns out he's just a delusional, lying dope.

That ain't nothing to worship.

I say you are an arsehole and predict that you will remain one for the foreseeable future.

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