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    Quote Originally Posted by NOVA View Post
    Reminds me of President Obama's 2012 budget when it came up for a vote in the Senate,
    the vote on the president's plan failed 0-97.....not even one Democrat supported it....
    Trumps failed healthcare plan didn't even that far.......lmao.....it wasn't very good anyway...
    Why are you ignoring the strategic reason for that happening?
    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chlorate View Post
    Frankly, I don't know if Douchebag Donald had an ulterior motive for pushing this bill. But, if he gets a form of his bill passed sometime in his 4 or 8 years in office, then it's not really a failure. A failure is something like the rollout of his first travel ban, because that is a failure, independent of anything that happens in the future (the incompetent execution).
    The 'motive', was a massive tax cut, and a sharp reduction in healthcare spending via taking away health insurance/coverage from millions.

    That was the only motive for this bill. It wasn't trump's bill. He doesn't even understand the issue. So, it was a failure because they cannot justify the impending tax cuts for the wealthy, without citing the savings from the failed health insurance debacle.
    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Martin McGuinness View Post
    How Trump Lost On Health Care

    The House’s failure on Friday to even vote on a Republican bill to repeal Obamacare — something party leaders promised for seven years and President Trump campaigned on — was a huge defeat for Trump and the GOP, in a number of ways.
    What is it about brain dead clueless liberals that compels them to fabricate their own version of reality? Does it make them feel all warm and fuzzy inside in the idiotic belief that they are still winning?

    This bill didn't "Fail" nor was it "defeated." It still exists and it can still be voted on. It might get some tweaking to make it more appealing to the Conservatives who correctly felt it was nothing more than "Obamacare light," but it was hardly a victory for the party of the Jackass.

    But what I find profound is that the same liberal dunces who denounced obstructionism when Obama was President, now cheer for it and celebrate it. Got hypocrite?

    The only thing more asinine than making this FAKE claim is the notion that Obamacare is anything less than a massive disaster.

    This legislation, passed on a straight party line vote without any input that could be mistaken for "bi-partisan" and which idiots like Schumer proclaim is necessary, is only now becoming full law after Obama left office and will bury the Federal Government and many State Governments that embraced the plan in a massive amount of debt and red ink totaling trillions.

    Yet idiots on the left celebrate that 20 million are now insured......which does not equate to being "healthy" and ignores the FACT that we now have 20 million more Americans on Medicare and no one has asked at what cost?

    This is another great example of why the term FAKE media is so appropriate to a media devoted to progressive liberal fascism and unwilling to provide Americans with anything more than dogma and leftist propaganda.

    If they did inform the American people; there would be an outcry to repeal this "obamanation" and replace it in totality.

    But alas, sheep like you feel good about it because you ignorantly believe that by giving people something for nothing, they will appreciate it and not abuse it.

    Dumb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    Trump said day 1 - immediately. He said it would be "easy." He said he was a master deal-maker, and knew how to negotiate these things.

    Then, he said healthcare was really complicated, and tried to blame a party that has no power anywhere for the fact that he couldn't bring Republicans together.

    No spinning this one, I'm afraid. Trump's first bigtime, high-profile legislation - and he got embarrassed. He is no longer the "winning" guy. He's a loser.
    Yep, and Obama said he would close Gitmo is first year as well. But alas, Obama's claims didn't seem to bother you half as much.

    You're a dunce on steroids....here is my image of whiney idiots like you who think that politicians should be held to their promises regardless of the efforts of the liberal left to destroy that agenda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    Trump couldn't get the votes when his party controls everything.

    He failed.
    What votes you retarded ingrate? There weren't any VOTES on the bill. And this asinine whiney stupid notion that Trump has somehow lied about his agenda is equally retarded.

    Yes, he thinks he can get it done quickly and yes, he was stopped by his own party. That does not mean a bill will not be modified and supported by Republicans at a later date that will repeal the repugnant Obamacare act that was passed on nothing but lies.

    But yes, you were okay with that as well weren't you, you massive lying hypocrite on steroids. You have a sad sorry and serious case of Trump Derangement Syndrome. Seek some professional help dunce.
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    Quote Originally Posted by signalmankenneth View Post
    So much for:
    So are you brain dead liberal hypocrites on the record for obstructionism now?

    Dunce.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Queen Snowflake View Post
    Oh, it's dead unless they pass single payer. They have had over 20 years to come up with something, more recently seven years, and they haven't.
    Yep; and your predictions are about as accurate as they were with a Hillary landslide you dullard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    "The buck stops here" ... NOT!
    Yet; the buck was passed on for eight years with Obama; right you repugnant lying leftist dumbass on steroids?

    Good lord; you people are too stupid for words.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    This isn't that. Democrats set out to achieve affordable healthcare for Americans. Republicans set out to do away with the pesky taxes included in ACA law. They don't care about healthcare, as seen by the actual arguments within their ranks. We had those who wanted to keep some from getting health insurance, and we had those who wanted to keep more from getting insurance.

    All to kill a cap gains tax on the wealthy.

    This is dead as far as Republicans are concerned. They'll peck away at other aspects of the law, thinking they can blame Democrats in the end.
    There is so much bullshit in this post one needs hip waders to read it. The Democrats didn't pass an affordable healthcare bill; the only one's who can "afford" it are the 20 million losers who are now on Medicare which is going to be paid for on the backs of the Americans who actually work and provide for their own healthcare.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    Wasn't very good?

    But the whole campaign he said he had something that was way better? It would cover EVERYONE, cost less, provide better healthcare, give everyone more choice and be ready to go on day 1. And it would be "easy" to pass.

    Don't even tell me...Trump was making all of that up?
    You think this is about Trump? You really are an idiot on steroids aren't you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chlorate View Post
    The nomination of Douchebag Donald is proof that the Freedom Caucus is in a death spiral.
    Still stupidly think Liberals are winning eh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    I'm starting to think you really believe that.

    He's a buffoon, Grind. He's not the mastermind you keep portraying.
    Wrong; you're the buffoon along with many other liberals suffering from a serious case of Trump Derangement Syndrome.

    But of course, only in lying liberal hypocrite land is a man who has amassed billions and graduated from Warton Business school with an MBA a buffoon.

    I do wish you had a brain; really I do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    And your diagnosis is partisan-induced myopia lol.

    In the long view [the only view that matters] the no-vote on the bill may be a net plus for healthcare. Or it could go the other way.

    You have no idea which it will be.
    its a plus in my book because this bill would have let them say the problem was solved and the problem fixed. Now they have to get something else which can be positive.
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