A majority of white voters elected THE worst president in history. Intelligent???

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He's been in office for just two months, blackasswipe. Where are you getting your information? I mean aside from that spastic colon known as the democrat party?

He was on his case well before he was inaugurated, he has a visceral hatred that cannot be assuaged.

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because californians would vote for hannibal lecter as long as he had the letter D after his name.



then rise up. confront the man. power to the people. grab your guns.

There is a lot of truth in that!!

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[evince]

the rise up already killed your repeal of ACA you fucking Russian whores

[cawacko]

I am just bloody grateful that Ma Clinton was kept away from the levers of power.

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That's right. We have a system that's essentially a zero sum game. You pick one of two people. So you can hate both yet still vote for one. So yes, many people who voted for Trump didn't like him but disliked Hillary more

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That's right. We have a system that's essentially a zero sum game. You pick one of two people. So you can hate both yet still vote for one. So yes, many people who voted for Trump didn't like him but disliked Hillary more

Yes exactly, if the Dems want to get back into power then they'll have to field a candidate that listens to the working class and not just Goldman Sachs, NOW and Greenpeace!!

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[cawacko]

So what is then?

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Charter schools aren't a panacea but they have had great success in multiple cities across this country. The idea that teachers aren't unionized and have more flexibility is anathema to the liberal mindset of some. There was a book written called The Prize about Newark, NJ after Zuckerburg gave his $100 million donation. The whole school system is a racket and "the prize" is who gets to control the billion purse.

This the desire by some for the status quo and 1950's style education system

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Not buying the premise that feminists caused wages to stagnate. Mere assertion, opinion, and conjecture.
While wage stagnation is a complex issue, it seems more self-evident to me that globalization, union busting, and neoliberal trade policies would have more to do with it than a group of women who expect to be treated equally and fairly at work.

Also not buying that feminism has been a net negative for women. The enfranchisement of women's right to vote, establishment of sexual harassment laws and policies, and implementation of anti-discrimination laws were all preeminent social achievements of the 20 century. Both men and women benefit from that legacy. That's just a fact, jack.

Nearly every married couple with children has to have both parents working just to maintain a reasonable standard of living. I would suggest that many women with young children would rather be at home.

Charter schools aren't a panacea but they have had great success in multiple cities across this country. The idea that teachers aren't unionized and have more flexibility is anathema to the liberal mindset of some. There was a book written called The Prize about Newark, NJ after Zuckerburg gave his $100 million donation. The whole school system is a racket and "the prize" is who gets to control the billion purse.

This the desire by some for the status quo and 1950's style education system

We have a similar thing over here. Many failing schools have been turned into academies and free schools.

http://schoolsweek.co.uk/the-6-secre...160-academies/

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_school_(England)



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blame it on Hillary -they didn't turn out -nothing "fishy" about it..
she was so uninspiring she didn't even have a theme except it was all about her..

I agree she didn't have a slogan like MAGA. I don't agree that it was all about her.

Hillary spent most of her adult life in public service. What has trump ever done for anyone but himself and his family?

[christiefan915]

are you saying that all the country and rural folks are idiots?

I'm saying that they were swayed by the superficial and didn't study his comments in depth. He had a cult of personality.

Take Obamacare. Supposedly people elected trump to repeal it. Then they got the deets about how their own coverage would be affected and they suddenly woke up to how bad trump's plans really were. All those town hall meetings with the majority unhappy about losing their coverage. All those repub congresspersons who wouldn't even hold town hall meetings because they were afraid. Our stooges like Murphy and Toomey refused to meet with constituents, even to shutting off email, letting phone calls go to message, and not responding to the messages.

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because californians would vote for hannibal lecter as long as he had the letter D after his name.

Curiously most Californian Democrats crave fava beans......coincidence?????????

[christiefan915]

let me help you with that

Sixteen months before election day?

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But they are too lazy to vote, they have to be bought.

You're an idiot. I'm a PA voter from a bigger city and neither I nor any other Dem voters were bought. Turn off the Faux News, it's rotting your brain.

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I am just bloody grateful that Ma Clinton was kept away from the levers of power.

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Maybe you are but millions of Americans aren't. Do you think Hillary wouldn't have been aligned with UK interests?

"Despite the populist parallels, however, most Britons support Clinton over Trump, experts told CNBC. A lack of clarity on what exactly Trump would do if elected "unsettles" many people in Britain, said Scott Lucas, a professor of American studies at the University of Birmingham.

"I think in general most people in the U.K. would feel much more comfortable with Hillary, because she's a known factor. Even if you disagree with her, you know pretty much where she's going to come from," he said."

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/07/13/elect...icas-vote.html

[christiefan915]

Yes exactly, if the Dems want to get back into power then they'll have to field a candidate that listens to the working class and not just Goldman Sachs, NOW and Greenpeace!!

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trump doesn't give a shit about the working class, that's just his shtick. He fleeced the working class every chance he got. Look at how he stiffs contractors, look how he had to pay millions to those who enrolled in his bogus university. Here's the latest, note that it didn't make the MSM. And as of today he has four Goldman Sachs alumni in his administration.

In Washington, D.C., Another Contractor Stiffed by Trump / March 8, 2017

An IBEW signatory contractor filed suit against the Trump organization for skipping out on $2 million of work done on the luxury Washington D.C. hotel in the Old Post Office Building.

Freestate Electric filed a mechanic’s lien Dec. 27 and filed a complaint to enforce the lien Jan. 19 in D.C. Superior Court. Freestate alleges that they were not paid more than $2 million for work they did on the landmark hotel conversion. This brings to five the number of contractors who have sued for nonpayment at the Old Post Office project. In total, they are claiming nearly $5 million in unpaid bills.

“We’ve only filed three [mechanics’ liens] in the past decade, so, this is not usual for us,” said Tim Miller, executive vice president at Freestate’s parent company, AES Electric. “I want to make clear that this is not political. Whether it is Trump, or somebody you never heard of, we did a good job, at an agreed upon price and we want to be paid for it. We’d rather be talking about what an excellent job our employees did on a complex project than doing this.”

http://www.ibew.org/media-center/Art...therContractor

An IBEW investigative piece published last year documented the Trump Organization’s reputation for underpaying or not paying its bills at all.

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Charter schools aren't a panacea but they have had great success in multiple cities across this country. The idea that teachers aren't unionized and have more flexibility is anathema to the liberal mindset of some. There was a book written called The Prize about Newark, NJ after Zuckerburg gave his $100 million donation. The whole school system is a racket and "the prize" is who gets to control the billion purse.

This the desire by some for the status quo and 1950's style education system

A Sea of Charter Schools in Detroit Leaves Students Adrift

Michigan leapt at the promise of charter schools 23 years ago, betting big that choice and competition would improve public schools. It got competition, and chaos.

Detroit schools have long been in decline academically and financially. But over the past five years, divisive politics and educational ideology and a scramble for money have combined to produced a public education fiasco that is perhaps unparalleled in the United States.

While the idea was to foster academic competition, the unchecked growth of charters has created a glut of schools competing for some of the nation’s poorest students, enticing them to enroll with cash bonuses, laptops, raffle tickets for iPads and bicycles. Leaders of charter and traditional schools alike say they are being cannibalized, fighting so hard over students and the limited public dollars that follow them that no one thrives.

Detroit now has a bigger share of students in charters than any American city except New Orleans, which turned almost all its schools into charters after Hurricane Katrina. But half the charters perform only as well, or worse than, Detroit’s traditional public schools.

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The 1993 state law permitting charter schools was not brought on by academic or financial crisis in Detroit — those would come later — but by a free-market-inclined governor, John Engler. An early warrior against public employee unions, he embraced the idea of creating schools that were publicly financed but independently run to force public schools to innovate.

To throw the competition wide open, Michigan allowed an unusually large number of institutions, more than any other state, to create charters: public school districts, community colleges and universities. It gave those institutions a financial incentive: a 3 percent share of the dollars that go to the charter schools. And only they — not the governor, not the state commissioner or board of education — could shut down failing schools.

For-profit companies seized on the opportunity; they now operate about 80 percent of charters in Michigan, far more than in any other state. The companies and those who grant the charters became major lobbying forces for unfettered growth of the schools, as did some of the state’s biggest Republican donors.

“The point was to raise all schools,” said Scott Romney, a lawyer and board member of New Detroit, a civic group formed after the 1967 race riots here. “Instead, we’ve had a total and complete collapse of education in this city.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/29/u...ools.html?_r=0

10 Years After Katrina, New Orleans’ All-Charter School System Has Proven a Failure
Test scores tell one story, and residents tell another. A three-month investigation by In These Times reveals the cracks in the education reform narrative.

On eighth-grade reading and math tests, charter-school students performed worse than their public-school counterparts by enormous margins—2 to 3 standard deviations.*

The researchers found that the gap between charter and public school performance in Louisiana was the largest of any state in the country. And Louisiana’s overall scores were the fourth-lowest in the nation.
http://inthesetimes.com/article/1835...roven-a-failur

These Charter Schools Tried to Turn Public Education Into Big Business. They Failed.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/schooled/...ere_s_why.html

If you want to have this conversation .. let's do it in another thread .. and I'll again demonstrate why for-profit charter schools are not the answer to education in this country.