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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    I have, several times, idiot. Since you have so much trouble with your reading comprehension, have someone read the posts to you, douchenozzle.

    Fucking illiterate mongoloid.
    So you don't know what the purpose of the Declaration is/was, still is huh commie. That's why you have no rights and you're just a government owned stooge.
    "Government is force by definition and corruption by nature. The bigger the government, the greater the force and the greater the corruption."

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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    The densest element is Osmium. You, shitweasel, put osmium to shame. When did you experience that traumatic brain injury, tard?

    The justification to separate from Britain has an entire list of grievances, you fucking idiot. Try to read past the creator part.
    I don't read past anything commie idiot! I appreciate the context and assess relevancy. You ignore anything that proves you to be the fucking commie idiot you are.

    You don't know for shit whether the B of R or the Constitution "would have" been written without the Declaration. That's merely a supposition on your part without factual basis. It's called "Hypothesis Contrary to Fact" and is a logical fallacy. Major fail on your part, tard boy.

    Keep flailing, asswipe. It's amusing to watch your continual fails.
    If you had a brain commie you'd realize that BECAUSE there was a Declaration, and BECAUSE the Declaration DECLARED all men's rights to be inalienable by REASON of an endowment from their CREATOR, that principle alone instituted the necessity for the Constitution to limit the governing powers and guarantee thereby those inalienable rights.

    Take note moron commie that the first paragraph of the Declaration proclaims a "Nature's God."

    The second paragraph guarantees the equality of men relative to how they are to be governed. It guarantees their inalienable rights by way of their CREATOR

    Take note commie that these were the same folk that conspired to defeat your Tory red coats, and the same who conspired to write the Declaration and the same to conspire to write the Constitution and the same folk who conspired to set their priortites of reason within the first two paragraphs of the Declaration. Their principles were their priorities.

    also take note commie moron that nary a single moron leftist, socialist, progressive has come to your rescue in this thread. You're all alone commie, because even your allies know you're a useless waste of breathable air and a stupid government stooge.
    "Government is force by definition and corruption by nature. The bigger the government, the greater the force and the greater the corruption."

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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    The justification to separate from Britain has an entire list of grievances, you fucking idiot. Try to read past the creator part.
    But that's not the question fuckhead commie. The question is WHY?

    The answer to the question fuckhead commie is BECAUSE they believed all men were created equal as to how they should be treated by government and they believed that all men were endowed by their CREATOR with certain inalienable rights and among those rights were LIFE, LIBERTY, AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS That's WHY fuckhead commie!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robo View Post
    So you don't know what the purpose of the Declaration is/was, still is huh commie. That's why you have no rights and you're just a government owned stooge.
    (laughing)

    It must suck for you to know that I have every right that you do, shitweasel, even though I deny your child-brain idea of a creator. Damn! That just makes my day!

    Stupid, lazy, fucktard. I've already told you what the Declaration is and isn't. It's nothing more than a proclamation. An announcement to Britain that we are on our own. And it lists a bunch of reasons why. Nothing more, nothing less. What it is NOT, you fucking moron, is law.

    Flail away, you historical ignoramus. It's amusing to see your panties in a knot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robo View Post
    I don't read past anything commie idiot! I appreciate the context and assess relevancy. You ignore anything that proves you to be the fucking commie idiot you are.



    If you had a brain commie you'd realize that BECAUSE there was a Declaration, and BECAUSE the Declaration DECLARED all men's rights to be inalienable by REASON of an endowment from their CREATOR, that principle alone instituted the necessity for the Constitution to limit the governing powers and guarantee thereby those inalienable rights.

    Take note moron commie that the first paragraph of the Declaration proclaims a "Nature's God."

    The second paragraph guarantees the equality of men relative to how they are to be governed. It guarantees their inalienable rights by way of their CREATOR

    Take note commie that these were the same folk that conspired to defeat your Tory red coats, and the same who conspired to write the Declaration and the same to conspire to write the Constitution and the same folk who conspired to set their priortites of reason within the first two paragraphs of the Declaration. Their principles were their priorities.

    also take note commie moron that nary a single moron leftist, socialist, progressive has come to your rescue in this thread. You're all alone commie, because even your allies know you're a useless waste of breathable air and a stupid government stooge.
    It's obvious you don't read past anything, you right wing retard. They got to the Constitution because they won the war, idiot.

    You sure get hung up on this creator thing, don't you, stupid fuck? Laws and rights are the creation of human beings, moron, not a god, not nature. Humans out of human experience. There is no such thing as an inalienable right. They are all subject to abrogation. Name one inalienable right and I will demonstrate its alienability.

    Here's another schooling, tard. Men have NEVER been governed equally. Do you live in a fucking cave? Mommy's basement?

    You kill me, idiot! I don't need support from anyone because I'm correct. If you require support from the other RW retards I see on this thread, you are more desperate than you already appear.

    Flail, fuckwad, flail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robo View Post
    But that's not the question fuckhead commie. The question is WHY?

    The answer to the question fuckhead commie is BECAUSE they believed all men were created equal as to how they should be treated by government and they believed that all men were endowed by their CREATOR with certain inalienable rights and among those rights were LIFE, LIBERTY, AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS That's WHY fuckhead commie!
    Lot's of lovely language, huh? Some intended to kiss French ass so they would give us a hand.

    Slavery, douchebag. Your claim was a lie when the ink was still wet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robo View Post
    So you don't know what the purpose of the Declaration is/was, still is huh commie. That's why you have no rights and you're just a government owned stooge.
    The vast majority of the Declaration is this, moron:

    "The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

    He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

    He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.

    He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.

    He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their Public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.

    He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.

    He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected, whereby the Legislative Powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.

    He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.

    He has obstructed the Administration of Justice by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary Powers.

    He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.

    He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

    He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.

    He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil Power.

    He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:

    For quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:

    For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

    For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:

    For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

    For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:

    For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences:

    For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies

    For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:

    For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.

    He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.

    He has plundered our seas, ravaged our coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.

    He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.

    He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.

    He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.

    In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.

    Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our British brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.

    We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these united Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States, that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. — And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor."

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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    Nope. You're simply another one of the morons that confuse the contents of the Declaration with that of the Constitution and B of R. I'll repeat for you and type slowly, halfwit. Try to keep up.

    The Declaration IS NOT law. It's a big fat FU to Britain that we're on our own. And it includes justification why.
    I have never stated that the declaration is law, so YES, you are confusing me with other posters.

    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    The B of R and Constitution ARE law. No mention of creator or inalienable right. In fact, the Constitution has provisions to make ANY right alienable.

    Illiterate moron.
    YOU are the illiterate moron. the constitution does NOT provide provisions to make any right inalienable because all rights are considered inalienable. the constitution does nothing more than prescribe a certain set of powers to the federal government. The B of R details a specific list of inalienable rights that the framers considered so hugely basic and fundamental, that they told the federal government 'these you may not touch in any way, shape, or form. It is halfwit morons and statist minded idiots, like yourself and CFM, who are so deathly afraid of the freedom and liberty that others abuse, that you seek to remove the concept of inalienable rights and turn them in to privileges that the government can include or remove them at will so you feel safer.
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chlorate View Post
    I think driving would be a right if the internal combustion engine had existed in 1787.
    why do you think driving isn't a right now?
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    I have never stated that the declaration is law, so YES, you are confusing me with other posters.

    YOU are the illiterate moron. the constitution does NOT provide provisions to make any right inalienable because all rights are considered inalienable. the constitution does nothing more than prescribe a certain set of powers to the federal government. The B of R details a specific list of inalienable rights that the framers considered so hugely basic and fundamental, that they told the federal government 'these you may not touch in any way, shape, or form. It is halfwit morons and statist minded idiots, like yourself and CFM, who are so deathly afraid of the freedom and liberty that others abuse, that you seek to remove the concept of inalienable rights and turn them in to privileges that the government can include or remove them at will so you feel safer.
    Fundamental? You mean like not housing soldiers in your home or a $20 trigger for the right to a jury trial? Damn fundamental!

    You keep referring to the existence of these inalienable rights, yet have yet to identify a single one, proof that you have nothing. The concept, moron, is a myth and, as Bentham put it, "nonsense upon stilts".

    Flail on.
    Last edited by domer76; 03-14-2017 at 02:48 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    Fundamental? You mean like not housing soldiers in your home or a $30 trigger for the right to a jury trial? Damn fundamental!
    for starters

    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    You keep referring to the existence of these inalienable rights, yet have yet to identify a single one, proof that you have nothing. The concept, moron, is a myth and, as Bentham put it, "nonsense upon stilts".
    Bentham is an idiot, and so are you for listening to him. since you seem to have an inability to actually read, let me be clear on this one more time....

    all of our rights are fundamental
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    for starters

    Bentham is an idiot, and so are you for listening to him. since you seem to have an inability to actually read, let me be clear on this one more time....

    all of our rights are fundamental
    SO fucking fundamental! So much do that the creator sent them from on high! $20 included. lol

    You said inalienable, dbag. Still no mention of a single inalienable right.

    Fucking moron.

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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    SO fucking fundamental! So much do that the creator sent them from on high! $20 included. lol
    again, you're confusing posters. try to stay with me, moron.

    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    You said inalienable, dbag. Still no mention of a single inalienable right.
    are you unfamiliar with the rights in the B of R? or why they are there?

    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    Fucking moron.
    yes, you are.
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    again, you're confusing posters. try to stay with me, moron.


    are you unfamiliar with the rights in the B of R? or why they are there?


    yes, you are.
    YOU used "fundamental" and "inalienable", idiot. No confusion with anyone. Do you suffer from Alzheimer's? Why is that $20 trigger as inalienable and fundamental as it was 230 years ago? You must think $20 has the same value. lol

    Where, in the B of R do they claim they are inalienable? There were 19 to begin with. Seven didn't pass muster and they ended up with 12. Those last two weren't ratified by the states. I guess they weren't inalienable. Specific rights came into existence in this country, idiot, because someone, from their knowledge of human experiences, thought they were a good idea, representatives voted on them and sent them to the states for their approval. Nothing fucking magic about it, moron. No nature's laws. Nothing from the creator. Just another legislative process. The entire B of R was a legislative COMPROMISE in the first place.

    Change your forum name, cretin. It's a contradiction.

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    Nobody, but nobody here has professed that the Declaration of Independence is LAW

    I have correctly pointed out to the forum idiot that the Declaration is the REASON for the rule of law we call the Constitution. That reason being "All Men Are Created Equal and Endowed By Their Creator With Certain Inalienable Rights, Among Those Rights Are Life, Liberty and The Pursuit Of Happiness."
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