Reply With QuoteHow can anyone favor a healthcare plan that uses the IRS to punish the uninsured? I mean besides the pervert masochists holding the Democratic Party hostage?Originally Posted by Bill Fishlore
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Republicans finally show their hand on Obamacare repeal: It could be worse but it’s still a total mess
Republicans unveil a "repeal and repair" plan that will make a decent system worse and should energize Democrats
Congressional Republicans, led by House Speaker Paul Ryan, are about to walk into their own Obamacare propeller. As we’ve discussed for several months now, the Trump administration and the Republicans continue to quietly and desperately formulate a way to repeal and replace the increasingly popular Affordable Care Act (otherwise known as “Obamacare”), even though there’s no way to do it without stripping away health care from millions of Americans.
Further scrambling the GOP’s repeal mission is the reality that many individual sections of the law are inextricably linked to other sections. For example, Republicans are determined to repeal the least popular aspect of the law: the individual mandate. But the mandate happens to be linked to the law’s most popular section: covering patients with pre-existing conditions. The insurance lobby accepted the latter solely because of the former — the mandate that forces everyone to buy insurance during annual open enrollment windows. Insurers have rightfully noted that repealing the mandate allows customers to buy insurance only when they’re sick or injured and then drop coverage when they’ve recovered, thus scamming the system.
Nevertheless, the Republicans have*unveiled their new plan for replacing Obamacare, and it’s just about what we’ve expected. Simply put, poor people will be screwed and millions will lose their insurance coverage.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/16/u...rich.html?_r=1
Republican Health Proposal Would Redirect Money From Poor to Rich
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/16/u...rich.html?_r=1
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How can anyone favor a healthcare plan that uses the IRS to punish the uninsured? I mean besides the pervert masochists holding the Democratic Party hostage?
n00b
No easy way out
The GOP is in a tight spot because they have made a promise that they can't keep. There is no magic plan that will keep all the things people like about ACA while repealing Obamacare. The party has tried for seven years and there are substantive reasons why it can't be done. In the end, the Obamacare repeal flap is going to be like the Social Security repeal flaps. Every time one is tried, it ends up a net loss for the GOP.
As he was with his investors in Atlantic City, Trump has cleverly left himself an escape hatch on the whole healthcare mess. He has promised to keep all the popular features of Obamacare. He has promised not to touch Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid either. If the Republican Party can come up with some politically popular changes in any of these entitlements, Trump will leap on board and claim victory for himself. If, as seems much more likely, the GOP comes up with some cockamamie plan along the lines of Dubbya's privatizing Social Security, Trump will step nimbly off the sinking ship and leave the party's fiscal conservatives to deal with the Democratic sharks on their own. No matter what happens, President Trump will be looking out for Number One.
U. S. NAVY Veteran
The bigger question to me was always how the hell did it pass in the Supreme Court ?
It was written and passed as a big lie and they ignored that....it was unconstitutional from the second it passed congress....then
the SC actually when out of their way to fix it during SC arguments.....
Put blame where it belongs
ATF decided it could not regulate bump stocks during the Obama administration.
It that time," the NRA wrote in a statement. "The NRA believes that devices designed to allow semiautomatic rifles to function like fully-automatic rifles should be subject to additional regulations."
The ATF and Obama admin. ignored the NRA recommendations.
Canceled
If so many didn't rely on this for their life & health, it would be kind of comedic to watch Trump & the GOP right now.
Remember when they were going to repeal and replace on "Day 1"?
Just a lot of empty rhetoric, as usual.
serene
I don't have the quotation handy, but I heard others discussing comments former Speaker Boehner made about Trump's repeal & replace promise.
They said Boehner said:
a) They wouldn't repeal ACA and replace it with a "better" Republican plan, so the Republicans will end up making attempted improvements to ACA instead.
b) Republicans don't agree on healthcare, and thus could not coordinate a plan as well as the Democrats did with ACA.
Those reporting this about Boehner seemed to think Boehner was certain about it.
serene
"How can anyone favor a healthcare plan that uses the IRS to punish the uninsured?" G #19
I thought that had been a standard feature of Medicaid for years if not decades. Isn't participation above a certain age mandatory?
n00b
Asperger Boy hits the nail on the head. The decision by the SCOTUS that the fine for failing to get insured is a form of tax means that collection of the tax falls to the IRS. The fact that the tax involved is for healthcare isn't significant.
Righties don't like the ACA mandate. I understand. I'm sure they don't like compulsory automobile insurance either. No American really likes compulsion and nobody enjoys paying a tax. Some things in life you just have to do. The balance with ACA is between personal preference and the need for adequate medical care for all Americans. You live in a society, you have an obligation to that society.
cancel2 2022 (02-26-2017)
fully immersed in faith..
All time high is less than half......so it has never been liked by a majority......
fully immersed in faith..
no penalties....
Banned
I have a foolproof idea. I'll provide it for me/my family and you can provide yours and that of anyone else's you personally think should have it that currently doesn't. Both of us get what we want. I have insurance and provide it to the only ones for which I am responsible and you prove that you truly care for others by using your own money to do for them what you say they deserve.
Liberals don't like that idea. It involves them having to DO something rather than claiming they care and having to do nothing but support taxpayers funding what they say they support happening.
Banned
What's comedic is that you think people using taxpayer funded subsidies to purchase something are actually purchasing it themselves.
What's comedic is bleeding heart pieces of shit like you claim to care whether or not other have healthcare but when offered the option to provide it to them yourselves, you run like a welfare leech from a job application.
Russian asset
The ACA is such a great thing it's in a death spiral lol.
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Obamacare: Something so great it had to be mandated.
Racism Whistleblower
The mandate was a republican idea that Obama adopted, BOY...
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