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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    The world is upside down to me. The right loved and liberals hated when Reagan called the Russians the evil empire. In 2012 Romney rightfully called out Russia and Obama said his 'the '80's called and wants their foreign policy back' and liberals ate it up.

    Now we have people on the right supporting Russia and liberals declaring them an enemy? What the hell is going on???
    times have changed.
    The USSR is not here anymore, and NATO has been doing the expanding -not Putin.

    NATO is driving the conflicts,not USSR hegemony

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    The world is upside down to me. The right loved and liberals hated when Reagan called the Russians the evil empire. In 2012 Romney rightfully called out Russia and Obama said his 'the '80's called and wants their foreign policy back' and liberals ate it up.

    Now we have people on the right supporting Russia and liberals declaring them an enemy? What the hell is going on???
    reagan called Russians the evil empire and bush called three countries the axis of evil, and I hated that. I don't consider the people of those countries evil, the leaders are a different story.

    I don't know that liberals are declaring Russia an enemy, I think it's more of a major distrust of Putin. What has Putin done for the US or any other country that would make us think he's honorable?


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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    reagan called Russians the evil empire and bush called three countries the axis of evil, and I hated that. I don't consider the people of those countries evil, the leaders are a different story.

    I don't know that liberals are declaring Russia an enemy, I think it's more of a major distrust of Putin. What has Putin done for the US or any other country that would make us think he's honorable?
    ""McCain and Graham aren't making Russia the enemy .. they ARE the enemy .. a truth the entire world already knows .. including the Russians.""


    This is BAC's post from earlier in the thread that Rana thanked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    ""McCain and Graham aren't making Russia the enemy .. they ARE the enemy .. a truth the entire world already knows .. including the Russians.""

    This is BAC's post from earlier in the thread that Rana thanked.
    That's his opinion but it doesn't answer my question about Putin.


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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    That's his opinion but it doesn't answer my question about Putin.
    why simple trust? "Trust but verify"(Reagan)

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackascoal View Post
    How incredibly IGNORANT.

    McCain and Graham aren't making Russia the enemy .. they ARE the enemy .. a truth the entire world already knows .. including the Russians.
    How many Americans have the Russians killed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    How many Americans have the Russians killed?
    keep ratcheting up tensions,and sooner or later a hot spot will break out.
    did you READ that list of weapons both sides have pointed at each other?
    People think of nuclear war when they say Cold War- but it's more like a tripwire -one bad step misread can really cause problems..

    And it SUCH a WASTE of money/manpower/focus, Even Obama who couldn't get anything right on foreign policy realized the need for an 'Asian pivot"

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackascoal View Post
    How incredibly IGNORANT.

    McCain and Graham aren't making Russia the enemy .. they ARE the enemy .. a truth the entire world already knows .. including the Russians.
    YOU'RE the enemy. You're the kind that opposes what made this country great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    reagan called Russians the evil empire and bush called three countries the axis of evil, and I hated that. I don't consider the people of those countries evil, the leaders are a different story.

    I don't know that liberals are declaring Russia an enemy, I think it's more of a major distrust of Putin. What has Putin done for the US or any other country that would make us think he's honorable?
    BlackAsCoal did. You lefties should get your stories straight before running your dick suckers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackascoal View Post
    How incredibly IGNORANT.

    McCain and Graham aren't making Russia the enemy .. they ARE the enemy .. a truth the entire world already knows .. including the Russians.
    To you, anyone that supports the concept of personal responsibility is the enemy. As a proclaimed Socialist, you prove that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    ""McCain and Graham aren't making Russia the enemy .. they ARE the enemy .. a truth the entire world already knows .. including the Russians.""


    This is BAC's post from earlier in the thread that Rana thanked.
    .. and I stand by those words.

    Personally, I don't get it. A foreign nation launches a cyber attack on the US elections system, and here we are questioning whether Russia is an enemy. Many would call that attack an act of war.

    The notion that liberals have had some love-fest for Russia is nonsense.
    AMERICAN HISTORY ITSELF IS A TESTAMENT TO THE STRENGTH AND RESILIENCE OF AFRICAN PEOPLE. WE, ALONG WITH THE COURGE AND SACRIFICES OF CONSCIOUS WHITE AMERICANS, LIKE VIOLA LIUZZO, EVERETT DIRKSEN, AND MANY OTHERS, HAVE FOUGHT AND DIED TOGETHER FOR OUR FREEDOM, AND FOR OUR SURVIVAL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackascoal View Post
    .. and I stand by those words.

    Personally, I don't get it. A foreign nation launches a cyber attack on the US elections system, and here we are questioning whether Russia is an enemy. Many would call that attack an act of war.

    The notion that liberals have had some love-fest for Russia is nonsense.
    Still mad that your bitch Hillary lost and your little black boy is no longer President?

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    keep ratcheting up tensions,and sooner or later a hot spot will break out.
    did you READ that list of weapons both sides have pointed at each other?
    People think of nuclear war when they say Cold War- but it's more like a tripwire -one bad step misread can really cause problems..

    And it SUCH a WASTE of money/manpower/focus, Even Obama who couldn't get anything right on foreign policy realized the need for an 'Asian pivot"
    I'll give Obama credit for not 'going Libya' with the Russians. Why in the world liberals feel inclined to antagonize them is beyond me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    How many Americans have the Russians killed?
    How many did Saddam kill before we falsely invaded his country?

    Are you aware that almost all of our nuclear warheads are pointed at Russia?

    Why did we create the Mujahideen?

    Russia is the biggest threat, and we should treat them as a threat, not as a friend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackascoal View Post
    How many did Saddam kill before we falsely invaded his country?

    Are you aware that almost all of our nuclear warheads are pointed at Russia?

    Why did we create the Mujahideen?
    Are you saying those that said the same things Bush did about Iraq, doing so BEFORE Bush was President, also lied?

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