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    Five myths about heroin
    . Most heroin addiction starts with a legitimate pain prescription.

    People who misuse prescription pain relievers are 40 times more likely to become addicted to heroin than those who don’t, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Research also shows that 75 percent of patients in heroin treatment started their opioid use with prescription medications, not heroin. That sounds like pain treatment is at the root of the problem, and the CDC is targeting doctors with new guidelines aimed at reining in prescriptions.

    But overwhelmingly, prescription-drug misusers are not pain patients. According to the National Survey on Drug Use and Health, more than 75 percent of recreational opioid users in 2013-14 got pills from sources other than doctors, mainly friends and relatives. Even among this group, moving on to heroin is quite rare: Only 4 percent do so within five years; just 0.2 percent of U.S. adults are current heroin users.

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    Quote Originally Posted by K I L L View Post
    mostly true. There are some dems that are good on this issue and some repubs that are good on it as well. but most suck
    BS. It is very clear, that in regards to this issue, we are better off with a D in the White House. I am not saying they don't suck but the degree counts.
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    How are you going to be an authoritarian if you have nothing to enforce against the people....

    How are you going to justify the police's job if you don't have drug crimes to enforce?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    Sucks, too - the states that have legalized recreational are all basically blue states. No clout, no power; the feds don't care about backlash in those areas.

    I can't stand this admin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    Unless you just can't stand the idea of "ni**ers" teaching white kids.


    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    Address the topic, not other posters.

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    Bottom line of this whiney thread; elections have consequences and enforcing our laws is a priority with the new President.

    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    Unless you just can't stand the idea of "ni**ers" teaching white kids.


    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    Address the topic, not other posters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Bottom line of this whiney thread; elections have consequences and enforcing our laws is a priority with the new President.

    Nah. It's actually that Trump doesn't really care about jobs, or states rights, or the will of the people.

    Not sure how you missed that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    Do not misrepresent my views. I am a strong proponent of federalism,and federalism gave us
    "the states are the laboratories of change" ,and that gave us legal weed.

    There was none. You emphasized the WH comments on states'rights in regard to the bathroom issue.

    I believe you support Trump's attacks on so called "sanctuary cities?" If that is not accurate then excuse my error. If it is, then you are an absolute fraud and no supporter of federalism and/or any state/local control. Trump's attack on so called "sanctuary cities" has far less constitutional support than Obama's bathroom guidelines and it is clearly an attempt to nationalize the police interests of the federal government.
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    "Bottom line of this whiney thread" TD #65

    You mean the one YOU are posting in?

    "elections have consequences" D #65

    You catch on fast. Thus the topic.

    "enforcing our laws is a priority with the new President." TD #65

    As it has been for all the U.S. presidents before him.

    Was that ever the topic issue, the question?

    A reminder to you Mr. BS avatar:
    the posted topic is:

    Spicer: States will likely see 'greater enforcement' of federal law against rec mj

    So the issue is NOT as you present it:
    "enforcing our laws is a priority with the new President." TD #65

    Instead it's "'GREATER enforcement' of federal law against rec mj

    That means spending $more on it.

    So please inform us all "TD".
    What crisis
    what great social problem
    what emergency
    is such increased diversion of U.S. federal law enforcement $resources expected to resolve?

    Whatever it is, I suspect the Colorado model does more to promote public safety and welfare than the federal War Against The People model, an obvious violation of Art.3 Sect.3 of the United States Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dick from the Internet View Post
    There was none. You emphasized the WH comments on states'rights in regard to the bathroom issue.

    I believe you support Trump's attacks on so called "sanctuary cities?" If that is not accurate then excuse my error. If it is, then you are an absolute fraud and no supporter of federalism and/or any state/local control. Trump's attack on so called "sanctuary cities" has far less constitutional support than Obama's bathroom guidelines and it is clearly an attempt to nationalize the police interests of the federal government.
    "guidelines" would be fine -but the threat was withholding of funding if they violated "guidelines"
    or else nobody would care about non-pejorative guidelines


    tell me why sanctuary cities are constitutional...and more so why they should not cooperate with ICE.
    And then tell me if they do not why the federal government cannot withhold monies when many programs (grants) say that in order to participate they need to abide by federal law.

    Federalism isn't "states rights", and it isn't "local control" or any of the terms you mishmash together.
    It evolves over time. It's not absolute. it involves being able to understand where fed'purviews encroach up the states/locals

    But it's always about keeping federal powers in check -because they tend to become expansive into state and
    local powers.
    Recall the individual mandate as "economic activity"was found un-Constitutional;only when Roberts called it a tax
    did it become legal

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mott the Hoople View Post
    It's the old and thoroughly discredited gateway drug theory.
    When you're in a constant stupor, you just don't worry about the gateway theory or any fucking thing else for that matter.

    You gotta get to the gate first.

    That's. The. Problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    "guidelines" would be fine -but the threat was withholding of funding if they violated "guidelines"
    or else nobody would care about non-pejorative guidelines


    tell me why sanctuary cities are constitutional...and more so why they should not cooperate with ICE.
    And then tell me if they do not why the federal government cannot withhold monies when many programs (grants) say that in order to participate they need to abide by federal law.

    Federalism isn't "states rights", and it isn't "local control" or any of the terms you mishmash together.
    It evolves over time. It's not absolute. it involves being able to understand where fed'purviews encroach up the states/locals

    But it's always about keeping federal powers in check -because they tend to become expansive into state and
    local powers.
    Recall the individual mandate as "economic activity"was found un-Constitutional;only when Roberts called it a tax
    did it become legal
    That would be the Anti-Commandeering issue of the 10th.
    Imigration is a federal purview,
    The states cannot be forced to enforce federal law.
    It is the responsibility of every American citizen to own a modern military rifle.

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    "tell me why sanctuary cities are constitutional.." a #69

    a) Thanks for asking.

    b) The short answer is Article Ten of our Bill of Rights.

    c) Why should States or cities have to enforce federal law? You support unfunded federal mandates?

    d) Municipalities have positive incentive to maintain social accord.
    Thus instilling in residents of the jurisdiction fear of the police could degrade, not promote community.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rune View Post
    That would be the Anti-Commandeering issue of the 10th.
    Imigration is a federal purview,
    The states cannot be forced to enforce federal law.
    yes. that does not apply to funding.
    I'm not sure though is that is stare decisis..

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    Quote Originally Posted by sear View Post
    "tell me why sanctuary cities are constitutional.." a #69

    a) Thanks for asking.

    b) The short answer is Article Ten of our Bill of Rights.

    c) Why should States or cities have to enforce federal law? You support unfunded federal mandates?

    d) Municipalities have positive incentive to maintain social accord.
    Thus instilling in residents of the jurisdiction fear of the police could degrade, not promote community.
    the 10th does not apply to immigration in that Congress has delegated those plenary powers to the executive.

    There might be some grey zones on cooperating with ICE. I don't think so -but say there is.
    That still allows the feds to withhold funding -there is no question about that.

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