What did Noah build the Ark with and what it says about OEC

[Timshel]

I have asked the creationists multiple times on multiple forum the same questions and have never received a rational response.

The Ark supposedly came to rest in Turkey. There are species - kangaroo, koala, platypus, etc - that are found no place except Australia. No evidence anywhere else.

The question is -!How did those animals travel that distance, unharmed and wait until they reached that destination to mate? The other obvious issues about housing and feeding those other animals for a year haven't been addressed either.

The problem is, Dick, they are non-thinking flat earthers. Their creationist sites and their blind faith removes their ability, if they ever had any, of rational thinking.

Yeah, biogeography is a huge problem for YEC. But OEC gets around it in a few different ways. They argue Noah's flood happened longer ago and/or they argue the flood was local. They will often date the flood at 50000 years agoor more. This is because they at least have to hold onto the belief that the flood wiped out all other humans due to it's importance in Christian theology.

I never really considered what that does to the tools angle because I usually consider the story in the yec context where they had some modest tools. It would still have been a big job 5000 years ago. But if you had 4 men (Noah and his son's) working for decades (magically lived for 100s of years) maybe.

But 50000 years ago. Boats are only ten thousand years old and with stone age tools that would have been available they could not have built anything more than a dugout or a raft. I doubt they could build anything capable of carrying the seven (or was it eight) people forget the animals.

So who is stupider PiMPle and OECs or Ken Ham and the YEC? It's a tossup.

[Micawber]

http://www.pewforum.org/religious-la...y-affiliation/

73 percent Repubs certain of God
55% Dems

[cawacko]

(laughing) Did I say that I believed that to be?

Nope, dumbfuck. I certainly didn't

I'm the dumbfuck because you are pissed I responded to his post? Sure thing guy

[Micawber]

Yeah, biogeography is a huge problem for YEC. But OEC gets around it in a few different ways. They argue Noah's flood happened longer ago and/or they argue the flood was local. They will often date the flood at 50000 years agoor more. This is because they at least have to hold onto the belief that the flood wiped out all other humans due to it's importance in Christian theology.

I never really considered what that does to the tools angle because I usually consider the story in the yec context where they had some modest tools. It would still have been a big job 5000 years ago. But if you had 4 men (Noah and his son's) working for decades (magically lived for 100s of years) maybe.

But 50000 years ago. Boats are only ten thousand years old and with stone age tools that would have been available they could not have built anything more than a dugout or a raft. I doubt they could build anything capable of carrying the seven (or was it eight) people forget the animals.

So who is stupider PiMPle and OECs or Ken Ham and the YEC? It's a tossup.

Some biblical people lived some insanely long lives I seem to recall.

[grapnel]

Yeah, biogeography is a huge problem for YEC. But OEC gets around it in a few different ways. They argue Noah's flood happened longer ago and/or they argue the flood was local. They will often date the flood at 50000 years agoor more. This is because they at least have to hold onto the belief that the flood wiped out all other humans due to it's importance in Christian theology.

I never really considered what that does to the tools angle because I usually consider the story in the yec context where they had some modest tools. It would still have been a big job 5000 years ago. But if you had 4 men (Noah and his son's) working for decades (magically lived for 100s of years) maybe.

But 50000 years ago. Boats are only ten thousand years old and with stone age tools that would have been available they could not have built anything more than a dugout or a raft. I doubt they could build anything capable of carrying the seven (or was it eight) people forget the animals.

So who is stupider PiMPle and OECs or Ken Ham and the YEC? It's a tossup.

That is the second you have posted that. And the second time it is wrong. No one knows how old boats are. There is some evidence Neanderthals used them.

[Micawber]

I'm the dumbfuck because you are pissed I responded to his post? Sure thing guy

Maybe he thinks you are a dumbfuck for injecting race into the thread.

[cawacko]

As a non-tard, I believe that stupidity does not attach to racial identification. You'll need, however, to provide some statistics to forward your racist point.

I'm racist to point out you were factually wrong and called a large portion of the black community idiots?

You said it bro. Don't be mad at me

[grapnel]

Not at all, tard. Show me the stats. About 80 % of people in US are religious, I think roughly. Go ahead, tease out the numbers if you feel like helping a racist demonstrate blacks and latinos are more dumb than whites because more of them are religious. Make my day.

So 80% are Republicans? According to you they are. Care to change your statement or just put your other foot in your mouth.

[cawacko]

Maybe he thinks you are a dumbfuck for injecting race into the thread.

That's ironic. A liberal who doesn't like identity politics now.

[domer76]

^Back peddling. And failing.

Then let's get down to it, motherfucker.

Want to take a stand on the OP or not?

[grapnel]

Then let's get down to it, motherfucker.

Want to take a stand on the OP or not?

You are angry little man. And I am sure, very, very little.

[Micawber]

That is the second you have posted that. And the second time it is wrong. No one knows how old boats are. There is some evidence Neanderthals used them.

Who cares? What's the biomass of animals and sq footage required space to hold 2 of every creature in a viable sustainable ecosysten? There are millions of forms. We couldn't do that on the largest cargo vessel on the planet today.

[grapnel]

Who cares? What's the biomass of animals and sq footage required space to hold 2 of every creature in a viable sustainable ecosysten? There are millions of forms. We couldn't do that on the largest cargo vessel on the planet today.

Who cares? I do. That is part of the theory against it. And that part is not correct.

[Micawber]

That's ironic. A liberal who doesn't like identity politics now.

No, the key trait is the antipathy to racism. But I am happy to discuss your scientific theories like skull size by race, vertical leap deficit in cro-magnon and java man...

[domer76]

It's diversion to address his comment that most religious folks are Republicans? Why do you believe that to be?

No, stupid fuck. You diverted from the flat earth creationists to others.

Lame attempt.