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    Default Trump's Russia scandal takes an unexpected turn

    On Friday afternoon, FBI Director James Comey delivered a classified, hour-long briefing to the Senate Intelligence Committee on the Russia scandal, and soon after, the Senate Intelligence Committee sent "formal requests to more than a dozen organizations, agencies and individuals, asking them to preserve all materials related to the committee's investigation" into the controversy.

    We don't know much about how the briefing went -- committee members were tight-lipped following Comey's presentation -- though Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) tweeted late Friday that he's "now very confident" that the committee will conduct "thorough bipartisan investigation" into Russia's "interference and influence."

    Reading between the lines, this makes it sound as if the Republican-led panel is trying to knock down the idea that a special select committee is necessary to investigate the scandal without political interference.

    A day later, Reuters reported that the FBI is pursuing "at least three separate probes" related to Russian intervention in American politics, "according to five current and former government officials with direct knowledge of the situation." Two of three, according to the report, relate to alleged cyber-crimes, while the third is the ongoing counter-espionage probe.

    And then yesterday, the New York Times moved the ball forward, though in an unexpected way.

    A week before Michael T. Flynn resigned as national security adviser, a sealed proposal was hand-delivered to his office, outlining a way for President Trump to lift sanctions against Russia.

    Mr. Flynn is gone, having been caught lying about his own discussion of sanctions with the Russian ambassador. But the proposal, a peace plan for Ukraine and Russia, remains, along with those pushing it: Michael D. Cohen, the president's personal lawyer, who delivered the document; Felix H. Sater, a business associate who helped Mr. Trump scout deals in Russia; and a Ukrainian lawmaker trying to rise in a political opposition movement shaped in part by Mr. Trump's former campaign manager Paul Manafort.

    The "Ukrainian lawmaker," in this case, is Andrii Artemenko, who's allied with Putin's government.

    According to the Times' reporting, Cohen, Trump's personal lawyer, claims he received a sealed envelope from Felix Sater, a controversial figure in Trump's orbit, and Cohen delivered the envelope to Michael Flynn before his resignation.

    According to the Washington Post's reporting, however, Cohen had a different version of events: he met with the president at the White House, but never dropped off any documents.

    The Times stands by its reporting. Why Cohen would tell two very different stories to two different newspapers is unclear.

    To be sure, back-channel communications like these aren't illegal or even uncommon, but the broader context matters: people close to Trump have been quietly passing around a pro-Putin plan, which may yet be part of a White House blueprint to ease Russian sanctions, which may help explain Russia's illegal efforts to help put Trump in the White House.

    Indeed, any story that further solidifies the connections between the U.S. president and his allies in Moscow is worth paying attention to.
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    Indeed, any story that further solidifies the connections between the U.S. president and his allies in Moscow is worth paying attention to.
    *YAWN*

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    *YAWN*
    So Dump's lap dog yawns over his Russian collusion.



    Big surprise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    So Dump's lap dog yawns over his Russian collusion.


    Big surprise.
    "Russian collusion" you sound like an ignorant parrot..oh wait..

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    So Comey's hour long classified briefing is yawn worthy to you?
    It is the responsibility of every American citizen to own a modern military rifle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rune View Post
    So Comey's hour long classified briefing is yawn worthy to you?
    which one is that? I get confused with all the anti-Russian histronics going on..

    Is it the "Putin is a KGB thug" one?

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    The obvious point to take from this vast waste of tax payer monies and supposed intelligence. The left and its Obama moles within the intel community have created a conspiracy void of having an actual crime take place.

    When any previous administration engaged in such a (wink, wink) conspiracy of discussing foreign policy matters with agents of foreign nations....the press called it De'tente. The easing of strained relations between nations. A prime left wing example.....when exposed, you could hear a mouse fart from the media they were so silent.....

    When the POTUS was actually caught on camera with an unknown open mike....doing far more than anything the Trump or his appointees are accused of doing today by the same silent left wing press, this attempted covert communications was obviously about politics...then the press had both video and audio evidence if such communications is illegal, but nothing but the sound of silence.... today they have moles charging collusion while they remain ANONYMOUS sources.

    Personally....Obama was engaging in the greatest threat to US and World Security....promising to further weaken the defenses provided by the US that has guarded Europe against Russian aggression since the start of the cold war. And what did they (the press) do when the former Sec. of State promised Russia nuclear fuel? Nothing....there was no headlines claiming Collusion with the evil empire of Russia....or that Russia helped Obama win a second term, a connection that could have easily been charged....not to mentioned the documented fact that Monies magically went to the Clinton foundation right in the middle of this Russia/Clinton Uranium deal.

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    дезинформация, transliterated as dezinformatsiya.

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    The sad but truthful fact concerning the practice of Yellow Journalism by the propaganda wing of the DNC known as the main stream media? They actually had hard evidence of a foreign nation hacking the US general Election in 2008....and did nothing about it? Why? Obama won....what needs investigated?

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/poli...icle-1.1365982

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    ^
    Based on everything I know, this was a case of political cyberespionage by the Chinese government against the two American political parties," Dennis Blair, President Obama's director of national intelligence from 2009 to 2010, told NBC News.

    "They were looking for positions on China, surprises that might be rolled out by campaigns against China," he added.

    Obama's campaign manager David Plouffe said that in August 2008, he received a call from then President Bush's chief-of-staff Josh Bolton.

    Law enforcement officials also reached out to McCain's general counsel, Trevor Potter.

    "They told us, 'You've been compromised, your computers are under the control of someone else. You need to get off network'," he told the news network.
    the IC leadership is a bunch of partisan hacks-I'm sure they didn't release "reports"about "China hacking the election"

    Bastards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rune View Post
    So Comey's hour long classified briefing is yawn worthy to you?
    Until they show us the evidence, pretty much.
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    The pre-election Russian collusion will bring down Trumph's presidency...
    Anatta-boy sounds like the chants of "let's not wallow in Watergate" from the 70s...
    This scandal and investigation is just getting started...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckly J. Ewer View Post
    The pre-election Russian collusion will bring down Trumph's presidency...
    Anatta-boy sounds like the chants of "let's not wallow in Watergate" from the 70s...
    This scandal and investigation is just getting started...
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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    which one is that? I get confused with all the anti-Russian histronics going on..

    Is it the "Putin is a KGB thug" one?
    The op of this thread.
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