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    Default The Theory of Political Capital: Why Trump does not have to compromise with the left

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    The Theory of Political Capital: Why Trump does not have to compromise with the left

    Analysts like Morning Joe and others always point out that Trump is using up his political capital by making his moves and that he needs to reach out to the left in order to govern and rebuild it. This shows a fundamental misunderstanding in our political class about what exactly political capital is and how it is spent.

    Political capital is the technical term for your currency in governing. It is used to get people to support things that they would normally oppose. Political capital is not only something you get during an election to be spent during your tenure, it is a fluid thing. When you do things that a person or group does not like you lose political capital and when you do things that a person or group likes then you gain political capital.

    Trump

    What has Trump done so far? He has rolled back regulations, nominated a justice the right loves, tried to impose harsher entry procedures, cracked down on illegals, and placed a cabinet the right mostly likes. If anything Trump even has more political capital with his voters than when he started. There is a portion of his voters who held their noses and voted for him for the supreme court pick and they are behind him now more than ever. After all they know they can count on him for future picks. Has Trump annoyed the left? Yes he has but he never had any political capital with them anyway. You can't lose what you don't have. In fact he may have gained more with the TPP pullout.

    Obama

    Contrast this with Obama. His first major legislation was Obamacare. The right was never going to like it no matter what so he was going to lose some political capital with them. The left should have liked it since that is what they voted him on. Except they didn't. In an effort to compromise the provisions the left liked such as single payer were removed from the bill. By handling it this way Obama lost political capital with both the right and the left. At the end of the day he will go down as the president who decimated the democratic party. While Trump by sticking to his promises will have built up the GOP in the midterms.

    Compromise

    The main talking point of the left is that in order to succeed Trump must compromise with them. Nothing could be further from the truth. The left has no power. They are not needed to pass anything in congress and the court will soon be conservative. Compromising with the left will only lead to the alienation of Trump's base which would be suicidal and would get you nothing. The people filing cases to stop your orders will not stop just because you compromise with others.

    The left uses a moral argument as well. Trump is President of the whole country therefore he has to do what we want even if we lost. At the end of the day there is no merit in compromising with people who think you are literally Hitler. You may as well get your agenda done and win them over with success as any compromise will not do it. If you're agenda was going to fail then it would have failed anyway without them.

    It would be nice if the country was unified but it does not have to be. There are two competing visions for the country and at certain points they cannot be reconciled nor should they have to be. Everyone seems to forget that on the top of most historians list of great presidents is Abraham Lincoln. Instead of compromising with half the country he went to war with them. If he compromised with the democrats of his time African Americans would still be slaves.
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    Good news .. because nobody on the Left wants democratic politicians to work with Trump. In fact, if any do, they'll be attacked.

    We want all the outcomes of Trump to belong to republicans ALONE.

    .. and that strategy is working like well-oiled machine. :0)
    AMERICAN HISTORY ITSELF IS A TESTAMENT TO THE STRENGTH AND RESILIENCE OF AFRICAN PEOPLE. WE, ALONG WITH THE COURGE AND SACRIFICES OF CONSCIOUS WHITE AMERICANS, LIKE VIOLA LIUZZO, EVERETT DIRKSEN, AND MANY OTHERS, HAVE FOUGHT AND DIED TOGETHER FOR OUR FREEDOM, AND FOR OUR SURVIVAL.

    In America, rights are are not determined by what is just, fair, equitable, honest, nor by what Jesus would do. Rights are determined ONLY by what you can DEMAND.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackascoal View Post
    Good news .. because nobody on the Left wants democratic politicians to work with Trump. In fact, if any do, they'll be attacked.

    We want all the outcomes of Trump to belong to republicans ALONE.

    .. and that strategy is working like well-oiled machine. :0)
    dont worry we still have manchin and the rest of the blue dogs in case we really need it
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    BAC you literally haven't accomplished anything yet. gorsuch will be SJC, devos got in, sessions got in, rex got in, we withdrew from the TPP, etc


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    Default The Theory of Political Capital: Why Trump does not have to compromise with the left

    All bullshit.

    Dump doesn't have to compromise because the idiots he's playing to don't want him to. And he'll do whatever his base wants. Period.

    All that blather in the OP is just more of the same old r/w bs excuse making for the fact that the right and your orange moron are all a bunch of partisan, my-way-or-the-highway a-holes who don't give a crap about fair government.
    https://i.postimg.cc/PqVCnGks/gojoe1.jpg
    C'MON MAN!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tsuke View Post
    dont worry we still have manchin and the rest of the blue dogs in case we really need it
    Not many blue dogs left in the Democratic Party.

    They are a vanishing breed.
    AMERICAN HISTORY ITSELF IS A TESTAMENT TO THE STRENGTH AND RESILIENCE OF AFRICAN PEOPLE. WE, ALONG WITH THE COURGE AND SACRIFICES OF CONSCIOUS WHITE AMERICANS, LIKE VIOLA LIUZZO, EVERETT DIRKSEN, AND MANY OTHERS, HAVE FOUGHT AND DIED TOGETHER FOR OUR FREEDOM, AND FOR OUR SURVIVAL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by K I L L View Post
    BAC you literally haven't accomplished anything yet. gorsuch will be SJC, devos got in, sessions got in, rex got in, we withdrew from the TPP, etc
    What is being accomplished flies right over your head brother .. and everything Trump does will be reversed.

    One month in office and he's already at 38% approval. :0)

    How long do you think before republicans abandon him?
    AMERICAN HISTORY ITSELF IS A TESTAMENT TO THE STRENGTH AND RESILIENCE OF AFRICAN PEOPLE. WE, ALONG WITH THE COURGE AND SACRIFICES OF CONSCIOUS WHITE AMERICANS, LIKE VIOLA LIUZZO, EVERETT DIRKSEN, AND MANY OTHERS, HAVE FOUGHT AND DIED TOGETHER FOR OUR FREEDOM, AND FOR OUR SURVIVAL.

    In America, rights are are not determined by what is just, fair, equitable, honest, nor by what Jesus would do. Rights are determined ONLY by what you can DEMAND.

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    Quote Originally Posted by K I L L View Post
    BAC you literally haven't accomplished anything yet. gorsuch will be SJC, devos got in, sessions got in, rex got in, we withdrew from the TPP, etc
    israel is back again, we have the companies responding to america first, you have various rollbacks.
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    I don't recall Hussein the Obama trying to compromise with the GOP. In fact he told us to shut up and ride along in the back of the bus. As far as I'm concerned 'the 'Rats shouldn't even be allowed on the bus. LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackascoal View Post
    What is being accomplished flies right over your head brother .. and everything Trump does will be reversed.

    One month in office and he's already at 38% approval. :0)

    How long do you think before republicans abandon him?
    that's one poll. other polls have him as high as 55%. polls of likely voters def have him higher than 38%. polls of all americans means dick when it comes to the electoral landscape.

    Secondly even if we were to accept the 38% number, his floor is virtually capped. He can't go much lower now and only has room to improve.

    I have heard this "trump is super doomed" scenario for more than a year now. It's gotten you no where. You've been wrong over and over. Hilarious you think now is the time you are finally right.


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    Quote Originally Posted by blackascoal View Post
    What is being accomplished flies right over your head brother .. and everything Trump does will be reversed.

    One month in office and he's already at 38% approval. :0)

    How long do you think before republicans abandon him?
    What's going to happen when Republicans go after Medicare, Medicaid and SS, Trump will lose far more support if he aligns with Congress.

    There is still the funding of the wall and tax returns. Trump also has big military plans and healthcare for all, and infrastructure, all these things cost money, lots of money.

    Trump made big promises that the GOP won't let him fulfill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by K I L L View Post
    that's one poll. other polls have him as high as 55%. polls of likely voters def have him higher than 38%. polls of all americans means dick when it comes to the electoral landscape.

    Secondly even if we were to accept the 38% number, his floor is virtually capped. He can't go much lower now and only has room to improve.

    I have heard this "trump is super doomed" scenario for more than a year now. It's gotten you no where. You've been wrong over and over. Hilarious you think now is the time you are finally right.
    :0) Sure.

    President Trump’s approval rating is at Barack Obama’s all-time low
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.271f0adf06aa

    Trump job approval 21 points below average at one-month mark
    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/gallup-t...ne-month-mark/

    Unbeknownst to you, political capital is also based on approval. It's your thread, how is it that you don't know that?

    Even Trump knows that .. which is why he keeps trying to pretend that he's popular.
    AMERICAN HISTORY ITSELF IS A TESTAMENT TO THE STRENGTH AND RESILIENCE OF AFRICAN PEOPLE. WE, ALONG WITH THE COURGE AND SACRIFICES OF CONSCIOUS WHITE AMERICANS, LIKE VIOLA LIUZZO, EVERETT DIRKSEN, AND MANY OTHERS, HAVE FOUGHT AND DIED TOGETHER FOR OUR FREEDOM, AND FOR OUR SURVIVAL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Queen Snowflake View Post
    What's going to happen when Republicans go after Medicare, Medicaid and SS, Trump will lose far more support if he aligns with Congress.

    There is still the funding of the wall and tax returns. Trump also has big military plans and healthcare for all, and infrastructure, all these things cost money, lots of money.

    Trump made big promises that the GOP won't let him fulfill.
    Trump and Putin 'won' the election .. now comes the hard part. :0) .. and he's failing miserably at it.
    AMERICAN HISTORY ITSELF IS A TESTAMENT TO THE STRENGTH AND RESILIENCE OF AFRICAN PEOPLE. WE, ALONG WITH THE COURGE AND SACRIFICES OF CONSCIOUS WHITE AMERICANS, LIKE VIOLA LIUZZO, EVERETT DIRKSEN, AND MANY OTHERS, HAVE FOUGHT AND DIED TOGETHER FOR OUR FREEDOM, AND FOR OUR SURVIVAL.

    In America, rights are are not determined by what is just, fair, equitable, honest, nor by what Jesus would do. Rights are determined ONLY by what you can DEMAND.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackascoal View Post
    Good news .. because nobody on the Left wants democratic politicians to work with Trump. In fact, if any do, they'll be attacked.

    We want all the outcomes of Trump to belong to republicans ALONE.

    .. and that strategy is working like well-oiled machine. :0)
    Dude lol, he's not even been in office a month. Wait till the first meaningful jobs/economy numbers come out.

    Then, we'll talk about how good your strategy is, or isn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Dude lol, he's not even been in office a month. Wait till the first meaningful jobs/economy numbers come out.

    Then, we'll talk about how good your strategy is, or isn't.
    WRONG .. you wait.

    I don't need to wait to know that Trump is my enemy.

    Don't need to wait to see the strategy is working .. which is why his supporters on this board are whining about it everyday.
    AMERICAN HISTORY ITSELF IS A TESTAMENT TO THE STRENGTH AND RESILIENCE OF AFRICAN PEOPLE. WE, ALONG WITH THE COURGE AND SACRIFICES OF CONSCIOUS WHITE AMERICANS, LIKE VIOLA LIUZZO, EVERETT DIRKSEN, AND MANY OTHERS, HAVE FOUGHT AND DIED TOGETHER FOR OUR FREEDOM, AND FOR OUR SURVIVAL.

    In America, rights are are not determined by what is just, fair, equitable, honest, nor by what Jesus would do. Rights are determined ONLY by what you can DEMAND.

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