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    Quote Originally Posted by Pocahontas View Post
    What transformation of the Democratic Party did Obama bring about? It is literally unchanged in 2017 from how it was in 2008.
    It's a LOT weaker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Right View Post
    It's a LOT weaker.
    And Smaller.

    And allot more obsessed with the extreme, radical, Far-Left positions.

    There was a time when the Democratic Party was slightly left of center, and there were other people and other parties way off to the Left of the Democrats, which were the home of the Radicals.

    Today, you cannot be to the left of the "Transformed" Democratic Party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurmugeon View Post
    And Smaller.

    And allot more obsessed with the extreme, radical, Far-Left positions.

    There was a time when the Democratic Party was slightly left of center, and there were other people and other parties way off to the Left of the Democrats, which were the home of the Radicals.

    Today, you cannot be to the left of the "Transformed" Democratic Party.

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    Look at it's leadership lol. Pelosi. Schumer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackascoal View Post
    Good news .. because nobody on the Left wants democratic politicians to work with Trump. In fact, if any do, they'll be attacked.

    We want all the outcomes of Trump to belong to republicans ALONE.

    .. and that strategy is working like well-oiled machine. :0)
    Isn't it too early to see outcomes ? Obamacare hasn't been repealed yet, the EPA hasn't been eviscerated yet, the State Dept. is in the process of being purged , Gorsuch hasn't been confirmed yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tsuke View Post
    I address that point actually. My major contention is that Trump hasnt spent political capital yet. He hasnt asked his supporters to do anything they dont want to as everything he has done is his campaign promises.

    Suppose you had a bill that gave 1 million to everyone or something equally as popular. You wouldnt have to spend political capital on it as everyone would like it. In fact sane people would spend political capital to oppose it as their voters would wonder why. Now narrow the field to republican only. You wouldnt have to spend political capital to impose stronger border controls or even do a travel ban.

    Also the notion that political capital is a static thing to be gained during elections and spent afterwards is outdated. We are in permanent campaign mode hence capital can be gained and spent at any point in time.
    The very notion that you could do something that would make you popular is enough to set off political rivalries. Look at all the fighting in Rome that occurred over obvious bills, just because of all the clients whoever passed them would gain (thus allowing them to establish a dictatorship). A republic is based on maintenance of the balance of power, if one person gets too much it runs away and becomes a monarchy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurmugeon View Post
    Without the BlueDogs and the Working White Voters, the Democratic Party will whether and shrink, until they are a historical footnote, right next to Whiggs.

    Yet, the Radical Far-Lefties, the "Progressives", who are now in control of the Democratic Party, will never allow the voices of the Moderate "Liberals" to be heard, much less heeded.

    The Anti-Capitalist, Pro-Socialism, and Anti-White, Pro-People-of-Color-ONLY, message of the "Progressives" will keep the Democratic Party from winning back the BlueDogs and the Working Whites.

    There still are allot of "Liberals" in the Democratic Party, but they have no power and no respect from the "Progressives".

    The Liberals have little Voice and No Choice....

    So, it only a matter of time before they start looking around for a new, 3rd party, to move to, where their concerns will be appreciated and their voices will be heard.

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    The blue dogs were eliminated in the wave election of 2010, because they naturally tended to inhabit the most vulnerable seats. Moderate Republicans were wiped in 2006 and 2008 too. The moderates are always the first to go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    Political capital refers to a mandate, not a loss in the general election. trump's numbers in the election don't do anything to show any real 'capital'.

    And Obama's first major legislation was the Stimulus, which will be necessary again after trump loses re election. Ironic how Republicans love his infrastructure plan now, but always hate same when Dems. hold the White House.
    A massive infrastructure plan at this time makes no sense. We are in the Obama boom. Best to pay down the debt. With less bonds circulating, the value of the dollar would fall and we'd become more competitive. But yeah, spend it all in massive tax cuts and spending during a boom and just accelerate our economic decline.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurmugeon View Post
    And Smaller.

    And allot more obsessed with the extreme, radical, Far-Left positions.

    There was a time when the Democratic Party was slightly left of center, and there were other people and other parties way off to the Left of the Democrats, which were the home of the Radicals.

    Today, you cannot be to the left of the "Transformed" Democratic Party.

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    It may be weaker, as SM said, and smaller, as you say.

    But it is not one millimeter farther to the left today than it was eight years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackascoal View Post
    Good news .. because nobody on the Left wants democratic politicians to work with Trump. In fact, if any do, they'll be attacked.

    We want all the outcomes of Trump to belong to republicans ALONE.

    .. and that strategy is working like well-oiled machine. :0)
    When are you going to worry about your own communities? Detroit and South Chicago are some of the worst places on the planet.
    Keep changing the names. It doesn't change the meaning.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Queen Snowflake View Post
    Bawahahaha, yeah, right, sure, Trump has energized Democrats like nothing I have seen since Nixon.
    It must be bad if he's managed to get a aging hippy like you to put down the spliff and go to a snowflake's meeting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irish View Post
    When are you going to worry about your own communities? Detroit and South Chicago are some of the worst places on the planet.
    He's too busy crying about not having the whole country under control of George Soros, only his own black ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Right View Post
    He's too busy crying about not having the whole country under control of George Soros, only his own black ass.
    I love it. 676 murders of black people in Chicago, not a peep from BLM, BAC, Pres Obama, Farrakhan, or any of the other faux black leaders.

    Proving 100% these movements and leaders are fake.
    Keep changing the names. It doesn't change the meaning.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Irish View Post
    I love it. 676 murders of black people in Chicago, not a peep from BLM, BAC, Pres Obama, Farrakhan, or any of the other faux black leaders.

    Proving 100% these movements and leaders are fake.

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