Communism is the future

[Mott the Hoople]

Big deal, he is still a Welsh wanker who likes to fuck sheep. No wonder you like him!

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Hey...Sheep of a feather fluck together.

[USFREEDOM911]

Hey...Sheep of a feather fluck together.

What multiple wives, means in Wales.

[Norah]

I think the only way communism becomes the future is if our society as a whole gives up on ourselves as free individuals with unlimited potential and also gives up on things like hope, effort, perseverance, and obviously liberty. It would be the abandonment of everything listed in the declaration of independence and the constitution/bill of rights. Instead of our current constitution which defines what our federal government is allowed to do it would instead abandon that structure and give the power to the government to define what we as citizens of that government are allowed to do for it. If you want to live under that structure then you need to ask yourself why and then truly think about what it means to give up on yourself and ultimately your individual pursuit of happiness because it would no longer be up to you and you would no longer define happiness for yourself.

[Minister of Truth]

The more realistic way is if we set the world's calendars back to 1917. For many people, that would make communism the future. Here, in the 21st Century, communism is a punchline, unless you are an English Taffy, in which case you are a punchline.

[Mott the Hoople]

I think the only way communism becomes the future is if our society as a whole gives up on ourselves as free individuals with unlimited potential and also gives up on things like hope, effort, perseverance, and obviously liberty. It would be the abandonment of everything listed in the declaration of independence and the constitution/bill of rights. Instead of our current constitution which defines what our federal government is allowed to do it would instead abandon that structure and give the power to the government to define what we as citizens of that government are allowed to do for it. If you want to live under that structure then you need to ask yourself why and then truly think about what it means to give up on yourself and ultimately your individual pursuit of happiness because it would no longer be up to you and you would no longer define happiness for yourself.

Norah....Skidmark is fishing. He's been trolling people with his Communist schtick since Damo first started JPP. His target are people who are naive enough to believe that anyone actually supports communism. He particularly tries to get under the skin of anyone who thinks that public investment or subsidies for anyone but farmers and investment bankers is creeping socialism.

Don't fall for it. Getting fished by Skidmark is about as low as a JPP member can fall. With the exception of dating Grind. You can't get any lower than that.

[canceled.2021.2]

I think the only way communism becomes the future is if our society as a whole gives up on ourselves as free individuals with unlimited potential and also gives up on things like hope, effort, perseverance, and obviously liberty. It would be the abandonment of everything listed in the declaration of independence and the constitution/bill of rights. Instead of our current constitution which defines what our federal government is allowed to do it would instead abandon that structure and give the power to the government to define what we as citizens of that government are allowed to do for it. If you want to live under that structure then you need to ask yourself why and then truly think about what it means to give up on yourself and ultimately your individual pursuit of happiness because it would no longer be up to you and you would no longer define happiness for yourself.

You shouldn't take Watermark seriously. This is his trolling shtick. He lives at home with his parents and is 30 years old. Pathetic really

[Minister of Truth]

You shouldn't take Watermark seriously. This is his trolling shtick. He lives at home with his parents and is 30 years old. Pathetic really

He's not 30, and he doesn't live at home. But, otherwise, you're essentially right.

[FUCK THE POLICE]

Capital is the enemy!

[Minister of Truth]

Capital is the enemy!

Down with DC!

[iolo]

Hey...Sheep of a feather fluck together.

when you beat one of these conservative shits in argument they tell you fuck sheep. It proves their racial superiority, such brilliant wit.

[Mott the Hoople]

Communism isn't anybody's future. It is a failed system that has been rejected by its citizens whenever they have had the opportunity to do so. Communism is a malignant form of Socialism. "Democracy is the path to Socialism," Karl Marx observed. Lenin created a perverted variety of the Socialism so popular in his day, replacing democracy with a "revolutionary vanguard" (self-appointed, of course) which would seize power and govern as the "dictatorship of the proletariat." The totalitarian command economy gave Russia, China and other followers of Lenin the ability to make spectacular economic progress for several generations but at a brutal cost to the people. So what? The Pharaohs of ancient Egypt achieved spectacular economic progress too. Slave plantations make a lot of money. Eventually, the Communist model collapsed pretty much everywhere. People want to run their own lives. Economic power corrupts just as political power corrupts.

Socialism, however, has thriven steadily for more than a century. There is no 100% socialized economy, of course, but the nations with the highest standards of living and the happiest citizenry are the countries with working democracies and the highest degree of socialization in the economy. That's a fact.

I'm no advocate for command economies by a long shot. Like supply side economics and laissez faire capitalism they simply don't work.

I have pointed for a long time to free market fundamentalist and the illiterate that there is a time and a place for socialism when markets fail to provide needed goods and services then it is an appropriate function of government to help provide goods and services that the market cannot or will not.

The knee jerk response by free market fundamentalist to this self evident observation is to argue that you oppose market economies when in reality you're observing the self evident observation that markets have their limits.

What bothers me the most about free market fundamentalist is that they often use their unworkable ideology to demonize public investment when it is needed and the market is failing to provide that investment. They also fail to recognize the critical importance of public/private technology transfer, as an example, that often result from public investment. The internet, for example, wouldn't exist without such a transfer of knowledge.

Having said that when markets do provide needed goods and services then government needs to stay out of the way except to regulate those markets to provide a fair and level playing field and to protect public interest and to protect consumers.

Without that legitimate function of government markets simply don't work.

[Mott the Hoople]

when you beat one of these conservative shits in argument they tell you fuck sheep. It proves their racial superiority, such brilliant wit.

That and they just don't get how hot sheep can be.

[Mott the Hoople]

Capital is the enemy!

Skidmak...look...a squirrel!

[Minister of Truth]

I'm no advocate for command economies by a long shot. Like supply side economics and laissez faire capitalism they simply don't work.

I have pointed for a long time to free market fundamentalist and the illiterate that there is a time and a place for socialism when markets fail to provide needed goods and services then it is an appropriate function of government to help provide goods and services that the market cannot or will not.

The knee jerk response by free market fundamentalist to this self evident observation is to argue that you oppose market economies when in reality you're observing the self evident observation that markets have their limits.

What bothers me the most about free market fundamentalist is that they often use their unworkable ideology to demonize public investment when it is needed and the market is failing to provide that investment. They also fail to recognize the critical importance of public/private technology transfer, as an example, that often result from public investment. The internet, for example, wouldn't exist without such a transfer of knowledge.

Having said that when markets do provide needed goods and services then government needs to stay out of the way except to regulate those markets to provide a fair and level playing field and to protect public interest and to protect consumers.

Without that legitimate function of government markets simply don't work.

Apparently, you don't have to worry about market purists winning the day anytime soon, because the Cult of Trump has derailed their efforts, as the Trumptards demand that Douchebag Donald insert himself heavily into the economy. I'm sure they get a thrill every time he works a deal with yet another CEO.

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