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    Is Libya's revolution anniversary cause for celebration?
    https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/ori...nts-chaos.html
    The revolt that started on Feb. 17, 2011, in Benghazi in eastern Libya was hailed as another episode of the Arab Spring that had already swept through Tunisia and Egypt. However, the "Libyan Spring" turned out to be a journey full of despair, bloodshed and insecurity, and peaked in civil war drawing in foreign military intervention. Alleging to protect Libyan civilians against Moammer Gadhafi’s government, NATO forces spearheaded military intervention, by bombing the country for seven months from March to October 2011, eventually toppling the regime.

    Eight years on and the country is still groaning under the burden of divisions, lack of effective government, rampant militias, occasional small wars and spiraling corruption. Rebuilding anything is yet to start, and all in-progress development projects suspended in the wake of the violence in 2011 are still suspended.

    To gauge the mood of fellow Libyans, I turned to Facebook with one question: What is the most important achievement of the revolution that is worth celebrating eight years on?
    To date, there is no official record of casualties and economic costs caused by the revolution and the war that followed in the once rich, stable and safe North African country.

    In 2011, Libya was going through a huge economic development program with ambitious plans to modernize the country, open up its economy, build thousands of subsidized housing units, curb corruption and improve the lives of its people. All that is frozen now.

    After the Tunisian and Egyptian presidents gave up power in January and February 2011, respectively, “Gadhafi himself seemed un-immune,” Milad Said, a Tripoli-based university management lecturer [who declined to say which university] and a Gadhafi supporter, told Al-Monitor.
    “I am not celebrating because there is nothing to celebrate but everything to mourn — Feb. 17 is a disaster for all Libyans.”
    He has a point. The civil war and NATO’s military intervention in support of the rebels destroyed much of the country. To date, nothing got rebuilt because the sporadic clashes and political disputes between different armed groups and lack of stability still hinders reconstruction.

    Retired Gen. Khalifa Hifter’s forces launched Jan. 15 their incursion into southern Libya attempting to chase away criminal gangs, terror groups and Chadian rebels using the south as their base to fight their own government back home.

    Militias in Tripoli, nominally supporting the United Nations-brokered government, still control the capital and surrounding areas. On Jan. 21, they were engaged in another round of fighting to counter another group, also claiming allegiance to the government in Tripoli, which was trying to take the capital.

    Security is lacking and jihadist groups, such as the Islamic State (IS), are exploiting the situation. Between May and December 2018, IS launched three different attacks targeting three sensitive sites in Tripoli itself.


    Right after Gadhafi was killed by the rebels on Oct. 20, 2011, many Libyans took to the street to celebrate his death chanting “the dictator is dead.” And that very phrase became a catchphrase for pro-revolution Libyans to justify all that happened since, by saying, “It is great as long as the dictator is dead.”

    Mohamed Farhat, an independent political analyst, sees one big benefit from the revolution that Libyans should be thankful for. He told Al-Monitor, “We are enjoying freedom of expression now — including yourself as an author. Under Gadhafi, it would be impossible for you to write in any critical way.”

    But this not true, at least in my case. I won the Samir Kassir Award in June 2010, while living in Libya under Gadhafi, for an opinion article harshly criticizing corruption.

    Ramadan Briki, former editor-in-chief of the local daily Quryna (from 2008 to 2011), told Al-Monitor, “No one was ever censored in my newspaper, even though it was a government paper. I personally defended many critical reports and analyses and published them.”

    Briki refers to his late colleague, Abdulqader al-Hadairy, a famous Libyan columnist and editor-in-chief under Gadhafi who died Jan. 31. “Hadairy shot to fame because of a very critical piece he wrote against the security services as early as 1985,” he said. “He not only became famous, but kept his job for another decade at least.”

    A female activist of women’s rights told Al-Monitor-
    “For women, the revolution did nothing. In fact we used to have lots of rights, but the revolution took away everything.”
    Indeed, under Gadhafi, women were free to wear what they wanted, own a business and work in any kind of job including the army, police and the judiciary. Even Gadhafi’s personal security detail included several women. Now Libyan women lost all that and more.

    At the time, Gadhafi kept Muslim clerks at bay with little say about what women could and couldn't do in Libya as long as it did not openly contradict Islamic teachings. Polygamy, for example, was banned unless under strict circumstances and, still, the first wife must consent to it in writing.

    After Gadhafi was toppled, polygamy was reinstated and men can now marry four wives without any real restrictions. Women are encouraged to wear the hijab and sometimes the niqab. It is not legally enforced, but almost all religious sheikhs on the government payroll encourage it through prayer sermons and media outlets, including on radio and TV.

    Many Libyans also think the revolution transformed Libya into an almost failed state without real sovereignty and unable to defend itself. Regional countries such as Egypt, the United Arab Emirates, Qatar and Turkey are supporting opposite sides in Libya, prolonging the conflict and increasingly making it a proxy war. At the same time, international powers such as France and Italy are competing over influence and interests in Libya.

    Hussein Bengharsa, who runs a charity called Safe House in Bani Walid, southwest of Tripoli, helping illegal migrants, told Al-Monitor,
    Since there is no real effective central government in charge, the country is unable to control the flow of migrants, because it cannot control its borders. This means Libya does not have full sovereignty over its territory.
    Dealing with an influx of migrants on a daily basis, Bengharsa believes an effective strong government controlling the country is essential to control the flow of people. For years, Libya has been a favorite transit country, even before the 2011 revolution. But under Gadhafi, it was a manageable crisis with fewer migrants than the influx seen after 2011. A pre-2011 stable Libya absorbed thousands of economic migrants who found jobs and stayed in the country.

    Out of the 100 respondents who responded to my question on Facebook, I counted less than 10 individuals who think the anniversary of the revolution should be celebrated. It is this small minority who attended the celebratory concert in Tripoli on Feb. 17.

    While no official figures are available as to how many people came out to celebrate, Tripoli’s large Martyrs' Square, which fits thousands of people, was half full on the revolution’s anniversary. Notably not a single government official was present. The celebrations were informal with less well-known singers performing.

    Apart from Tripoli and Benghazi, the birthplace of the revolution, no glamorous celebrations were held. Social media users, particularly those on Facebook, were critical of the celebrations, since they were accompanied by a seven-hour blackout in parts of the capital.

    Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/ori...#ixzz5gLX3J0mx

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    Hellary and her goons McCain and Kerry are satanic.


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    The filty corupt global elites should al hang for there evil crimes ,
    Kaddafi was a good man and good for his country people like Obama and Clinton should hang .


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    There was no "battle for Libya". It was an invasion.

    Gaddafi is simply Gaddafi the Great. He threw Dajjalik System in the dustbin, he told USA and UK and France are doing terrorism in the world

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    https://www.usnews.com/news/world/ar...l-at-field-noc
    Libyan El Sharara Oilfield Remains Closed as Armed Men Still There: NOC
    "The field is closed because of the presence of a group of civilians, this armed militia, and some military people with them," the NOC chairman said in the video posted online.
    The oilfield deep in Libya's south has been closed since December when state guards and tribesmen seized it to make financial demands, the latest in several such closures over the past few years.

    In January, the LNA, which is based in eastern Libya, started an offensive to secure El Sharara and nearby El Feel oilfields and fight militants in the south.

    In February it sent a force to the field and last week handed control of it to the same oil security force that had been responsible for the closure, after holding negotiations with them over their demands.

    The LNA later called on NOC to lift force majeure, a contractual waiver declared in December.


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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    Hellary and her goons McCain and Kerry are satanic.

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    Gaddafi is simply Gaddafi the Great. He threw Dajjalik System in the dustbin, he told USA and UK and France are doing terrorism in the world
    Muslims often refer to the civilization which the Illuminati has been setting up since the 18th century as the
    Dajjal System. This is the system of democracy, capitalism, liberalism, secularism and finance that has come to dominate the Western world since the American and French Revolutions. Under this system, things which are strictly haram (forbidden) under Islam (and which were previously forbidden by the Christian Church) have become halal (permitted), and things which are halal have become haram. Thus, the Illuminati’s system has created an inverted, ‘Satanic’ civilization.

    Purchasing the latest smart phone, brand of beer, make of automobile, erectile dysfunction drug, etc. is touted in Western advertising as the height of human existence, while references to religion, God, etc. are all but non-existent.
    Thus, devout Muslims see a Western civilization which is celebrating the worldly desires of the animalistic lower self (nafs) and denigrating the higher, divine aspects of the self: Qalb (heart) and Ruh (spirit).
    They see the Dajjal System as a system which enslaves human beings to their material desires, compelling them to work endlessly to earn money, which they will then spend to satisfy their lusts.
    Furthermore, the New World Order is normalizing values such as homosexuality, abortion, feminism, alcohol and drug use, prostitution, usury, etc. which are strictly haram in Islam.
    To devout Muslims, these are all sure signs that the Illuminati’s New World Order is a place designed by Shaytan (Satan), which is luring people to spend eternity in Jahannam (Hellfire).

    This system is called the ‘Dajjal System’ by Muslims because they believe it is being set up in preparation for the arrival of Al-Masih ad-Dajjal – the False Messiah, Deceiver and Imposter prophesied in the hadith (accounts of the Prophet). The Dajjal plays a similar role in Islam as the Antichrist in Christian theology – he will be a charismatic figure who appears near the end of time and attempts to deceive mankind that he is the Messiah. He will win a large following and will establish a Satanic empire that spreads corruption over the earth. At this point of mankind’s greatest tribulations, Muhammad prophesied that Issa (Jesus) will return and slay the Dajjal and usher in the end of time.
    http://templeofsatan.com/the-dajjal-system/

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    Smoke rises during heavy clashes between rival factions in Tripoli, Libya, August 28, 2018

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    journalists continue to pay the ultimate price for merely doing the necessary work of journalism.
    Mohamed Ben Khalifa, a photographer and video journalist, was killed yesterday in #Tripoli’s Qasr bin Ghashir after being hit by shrapnel.
    20 Jan 2019
    Last edited by dukkha; 02-25-2019 at 02:53 AM.

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    Oxfam and 43 other organisations have accused European Union governments of being complicit in the "tragedy" of migrants crossing from Libya to Italy, saying more than 5,300 people had died in the Mediterranean in the past two years.

    Two years after Italy's EU-backed migration deal with Libya, "people are now in even more danger at sea and are being taken back by the Libyan coastguard to face human rights abuses in Libya", Oxfam said in a statement on Friday.

    With the support of the EU, Italy and Libya in February 2017 signed a deal to stem the flow of migrants from North Africa to Italy.

    According to the deal, Italy and the EU were to provide support for Libyan coastguards while Tripoli would prevent people from leaving its shores for Europe.

    But in the ensuing two years, "more than 4,000 people have drowned in the Central Mediterranean alone, and more than 5,300 in all corners of the Mediterranean Sea, making it the deadliest sea in the world", Oxfam said.

    The statement followed a joint letter by Oxfam and other aid organisations, which urged European governments to stop sending migrants back to Libya.

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    #Libya- photos from the LNA's re-opening of Sabha International Airport (despite that, the airport is still missing critical infrastructure needed for regular use)
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    Oded Berkowitz
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    Intelligence analyst at a private geopolitical risk consulting firm.
    Tweet mainly on Egypt, Libya and the rest of the Maghreb.

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    Why don't you post some good news for a change?

    London, 21 February 2019:

    The Khalifa Hafter-led Libyan National Army (LNA) has announced that it has today peacefully taken over the security of the El-Feel oilfield.

    Sources have reported that the LNA were able to take control of the oilfield without any fighting after negotiating its takeover with Zintani and other local forces occupying the field.

    The LNA’s Military Information Division hailed the move adding that “It begins the process of securing it (El-Feel) in preparation for handover to the Petroleum Facilities Guard (PFG).”

    It added that “This process is part of the triumphant victories of our victorious army, thanks to God and the people’s rallying around their army, protecting its strength and dignity.”

    Meanwhile, Faiez Serraj, through his Spokesperson today, urged calm and called for no blood to be spilt between Libyans in the south.

    https://www.libyaherald.com/2019/02/...ld-peacefully/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    Why don't you post some good news for a change?

    https://www.libyaherald.com/2019/02/...ld-peacefully/
    if you had looked right above your post, I did -the same thing you posted but I got it off a tweet by Oded Berkowitz -
    who has lots of inside Libya info..( and the photo)

    I'd hardly call it good news -as it's going to be awhile as the Al-Feel (Elephant) field isn't ready to go back online
    But a small sliver of good news is always welcome in the country's chronic disarray.
    PS please don't double post the same info. I try to keep this uncluttered -thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by noise View Post
    if you had looked right above your post, I did -the same thing you posted but I got it off a tweet by Oded Berkowitz -
    who has lots of inside Libya info..( and the photo)

    I'd hardly call it good news -as it's going to be awhile as the Al-Feel (Elephant) field isn't ready to go back online
    But a small sliver of good news is always welcome in the country's chronic disarray.
    PS please don't double post the same info. I try to keep this uncluttered -thanks
    Ok, I deleted the other post it was an accident, shit happens. I also didn't see you post, you just seem to post relentlessly bad news so I thought
    you might appreciate it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    Ok, I deleted the other post it was an accident, shit happens. I also didn't see you post, you just seem to post relentlessly bad news so I thought
    you might appreciate it.
    Thanks. much appreciate it. I post what happens. the news is mostly relentlessly bad

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    Quote Originally Posted by noise View Post
    Thanks. much appreciate it. I post what happens. the news is mostly relentlessly bad
    Here is some more potentially good news.

    https://www.libyaherald.com/2019/02/...w-maintenance/

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    The Libya Times

    BREAKING – In a meeting earlier today in the #UAE, Fayez Sarraj and NOC chairman, Mustafa Sanala, decided to lift force majeure on #Libya’s Sharara #oil field

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    Shopping Street Rises from the Ashes of War in Libya's Benghazi
    March 02, 2019

    https://learningenglish.voanews.com/...i/4807933.html


    General view of a store that sells international brands at Venice Street in Benghazi, Libya, Feb. 6, 2019.

    he old center of Benghazi suffered severe damage during Libya’s civil war. Most people living there were more concerned with getting fuel and moving to safer areas than they were with buying brand-name clothing.

    But new stores and eateries are opening along one street in the city center: Venice Street. And they have many people excited about shopping.

    Imported goods to the country were limited between 2014 and 2017. Fighting between the Libyan National Army and its mostly Islamist opponents forced Benghazi’s port to close.

    Elsewhere around the city, some buildings still have bullet holes dating back to World War II. During that time, Benghazi changed control between British and German troops.

    Former leader Muammar Gaddafi ignored eastern Libya during his 42 years in power as punishment for political opposition there. Venice Street was mostly undeveloped until Gaddafi’s overthrow in 2011.

    Today, newly opened clothing stores along Venice Street carry famous international brands.

    People in Benghazi do have money in their banks. But a shortage of bank notes means they do not necessarily have physical money. However, some shops along Venice Street accept checks as payment for an additional cost.

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