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    sorry I havent kept up, It's just a question of what outside powers are doing now.

    Libya is a chess board for them to exploit and the people are pawns for Erdogan, etc,,
    very depressing to see Libya ripped apart by colonialists
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    Egypt's intention to arm Libyan tribes to end up in failure due to historical hostilities
    https://www.dailysabah.com/politics/...stilities/news

    Last month, el-Sissi said that Libya's Sirte and al-Jufra air bases were a "red line" and that he would arm Libyan tribes in his country to fight alongside the ranks of East Libya-based warlord Khalifa Haftar.

    He also suggested that Cairo could launch "external military missions" into Libya "if required," saying that "any direct intervention in Libya has already become legitimate internationally."

    Plans have been made to settle Libyan-origin bedouin tribes, who live in the northwest of Egypt, in Libya, and to increase the population density in the east of the country.

    However, historical hostilities among tribes of Libyan origin show that el-Sissi's plan is unlikely to be implemented.

    There are many Libyan-origin tribes in Egypt. The largest is known as the Awlad Ali tribe, with a population of over a million. This tribe were forced to flee from Libya to Egypt in 1890, after facing defeat in a war that broke out between the Awlad Ali and Abidat tribes in Libya's Brega region.

    Most members of the Awlad Ali settled in the Egyptian city of Marsa Matruh, located between the city of delta city of Alexandria and the al-Sellum district on the Libyan border.

    The coexistence of these two tribes is considered a weak possibility due to historical tensions.

    The United Arab Emirates and Egypt are planning to substitute Haftar with Aguila Saleh Issa, speaker of the pro-Haftar House of Representatives in the eastern city of Tobruk. However, Issa, who backs Haftar, belongs to the Abidat tribe.

    Therefore, Awlad Ali tribe, which mostly resides in the regions close to the Libyan border, would not be expected to send its members to Libya to fight in the ranks of Haftar.

    Other Libyan-origin tribes living in Egypt include the Barasa, Fawaid, Hanadi, Furjan, Bahja, Jamiat, Qatan, Jabaliye, Rimah, Habbun, Awlad Sheikh, Jalalat, Majabira and Al-Jawazi....
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    France's Macron slams Turkey's 'criminal' role in Libya
    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/...090915443.html


    Fighters loyal to the UN-recognised GNA pose after seizing the city of Tarhuna in early June [EPA-EFE]

    France's president has accused Turkey of importing large numbers of fighters into Libya, labelling Ankara's intervention "criminal".

    Emmanuel Macron also lambasted Russian President Vladimir Putin's ambivalence towards his country's mercenaries operating in the oil-rich North African state.

    Turkey has recently intervened decisively in Libya, providing air support, weapons, and allied fighters from Syria to help the internationally recognised government based in Tripoli repel a 14-month assault by renegade eastern commander Khalifa Haftar.

    "I think it is a historic and criminal responsibility for a country which claims to be a NATO member," Macron said on Monday of Turkey's role in Libya.
    Without providing any evidence on the nature of the fighters, he said Turkey was "massively importing" them from Syria.

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    Macron denied backing Haftar's east-based forces, saying France is in favour of finding a "political solution".

    Ties between NATO allies France and Turkey have soured in recent weeks over Libya, northern Syria, and drilling in the eastern Mediterranean.

    Tensions escalated following a June 10 incident between Turkish warships and a French naval vessel in the Mediterranean Sea, which France considers a hostile act under NATO's rules of engagement.

    Turkey has denied harassing the French frigate.


    Paris has been accused of supporting Haftar politically, having previously given him military assistance.

    France has long denied backing Haftar but has stopped short of rebuking his allies, especially the United Arab Emirates (UAE), which has also been singled out by the United Nations for violating an arms embargo in Libya.



    Thousands of Russian mercenaries, along with fighters from Sudan and Chad are reportedly
    on the way to the strategic city of Sirte, as the UN-recognised Government of National Accord (GNA) moves to take the city.

    Haftar-allied forces released a video showing military reinforcements being deployed from Benghazi, where the eastern forces are based, towards Sirte, 570km (354 miles) to the west.

    The reinforcements included Sudanese and Chadian fighters, as well as more than 3,000 Russian mercenaries, sources told Al Jazeera.

    Macron spoke to Putin on Friday but stopped short of denouncing Moscow as he has with Ankara. He said the two leaders agreed to work towards the common goal of a ceasefire in Libya.

    Macron said Putin had told him that private contractors fighting in Libya did not represent Russia.

    "I told him of my very clear condemnation of the actions which are carried out by the Wagner force... He (Putin) plays on this ambivalence," the French president said

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    Jets hit Libya's al-Watiya airbase where Turkey may build base, sources say
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/jets-hit-...084023627.html

    Warplanes struck overnight at an airbase that was recently recaptured by Libya's internationally recognised government from eastern forces with help from Turkey, a military source with the eastern forces and a resident nearby said.

    The strikes were carried out by "unknown aircraft", the military source with the Libyan National Army (LNA) of eastern-based commander Khalifa Haftar said.

    A resident at the nearby town of Zintan said explosions were heard from the direction of the base.

    Watiya's recapture in May by the Government of National Accord (GNA) in Tripoli marked the start of a sudden collapse of the LNA's 14-month assault to seize the capital and its retreat along the coast to the new frontlines

    the United States said Russia had sent at least 14 MiG29 and Su-24 warplanes to an LNA base via Syria, where their Russian airforce markings were removed.

    Turkish involvement in Libya has also angered France and Greece and French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian has warned of new sanctions on Ankara.
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    *Russian jets are now backing the LNA* (my comment)

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    UN chief Guterres stated that foreign interference in Libya has reached ‘unprecedented levels,’ without directly stating the main culprits. It is looking increasingly likely that we will see a military operation by GNA forces, backed by Turkey, on the Sirte region.
    Any military action in the Sirte region would be a direct danger to NOC’s future plans, as oil production and exports in the region would likely be halted.
    The GNA (Tripoli government) and Turkish officials have openly stated that they are preparing a move against Sirte, currently in the hands of LNA forces, to regain control of the area’s strategic oil reserves. Indirectly Turkey has stated that it wants to regain power over the Sirte area in order to deliver a major blow to Haftar’s LNA and its backers, Russia, UAE, and Egypt.
    The UN is currently trying in vain to set up a possible political solution for the crisis, but the developments on the ground suggest that there is no political will for such a deal at the moment.

    As things stand, two major external forces are on track to clash in a military conflict within Libya. Turkish forces have recently put their full backing behind the GNA, while Egypt has promised the protect Haftar’s forces. Egyptian President Sisi has stated that any violation of Sirte and Al-Jufra will result in direct intervention from the Egyptian military as per international norms. Egyptian Foreign Minister Sameh Shoukry stated that “these threats clearly and currently endanger Egypt, and we will not tolerate these types of threats which are close to our borders, at a time when foreign interference provides those militants with support.”

    To show their readiness to intervene, Egypt has held a military drill near the Libyan border called “Hasm 2020”. This drill was a direct reaction to a Turkish statement that the Turkish navy will hold exercises off the Libyan coast.
    Egyptian defense sources have stated that Hasm 2020 involved Egypt’s Armed Forces’ land, maritime, and air defense. Some analysts expect more Egyptian naval maneuvers near Libyan waters in the coming days.
    The Turkish Navy said the maneuvers, called “Naftex”, will take place off the Libyan coast, involving 17 warplanes and eight naval vessels. Ankara has reportedly reserved an area for military exercises in the Mediterranean, according to Turkish news Yeni ?afak, slated to be three different regions, named Barbaros, Turgut Reis, and Çaka Bey, off the Libyan coast.
    On June 11th, Turkish armed forces held a maneuver in the Mediterranean with eight naval ships and 17 fighter jets.

    A possible conflict between Egypt and Turkey is now a very real possibility. Such a conflict would likely draw in other forces as Egypt, Israel, Greece, and Cyprus are indirectly involved already.
    Turkish military moves, including a possible Sirte operation, will need to be backed up by Turkish naval forces. These naval forces would need to go via the maritime areas of the East Med countries, regardless of Libya and Turkey signing a bilateral EEZ agreement. Cairo is unlikely to back down any time soon as Ankara has been supplying armed drones, military advisors, and Syrian mercenaries to the U.N.-recognized GNA.
    On July 4, Al Watiya airbase, where Turkey had started to deploy some of its MIM-23 Hawk air defense missiles, was attacked by unidentified airplanes. There are rumors that this attack involved Rafale fighters, which would suggest that Egypt is already involved as the country has a large fleet of such fighters. Military analysts clarified that Egypt’s Rafales are equipped with long-range air-to-surface Storm Shadow missiles, able to evade any low to medium-altitude air defenses.

    Turkey’s willingness to take part in the Libyan conflict has put it on a collision course with Egypt, the UAE, and possibly even Israel.
    Turkish Airforce and Navy capabilities are impressive, but Egypt and its partners have a geographic advantage. A significant Egyptian military intervention in Libya would be a litmus test for Ankara’s resolve. In the end, Turkey will have to transport its armor across the Mediterranean while Egypt would just have to drive or fly across the border.

    In the coming days and weeks, we will likely see the Libya crisis swing in favor of one of the two major powers. Ankara and the GNA will have to consider the possibility that some European partners and Israel may refuse to sit on the sideline if a military conflict does happen.
    Further destabilization of Libya and increased Turkish influence in the region would not be to the advantage of France (Total), Italy (ENI), or the littoral powers of the East Med. Whatever happens in the coming weeks, a revival of Libyan oil production and exports is looking extremely unlikely.
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/libya-bri...230000885.html

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    Convoy of the "Tripoli Brigade", a militia loyal to the UN-recognised Government of National Accord (GNA), parade through Martyrs' Square at the centre of the GNA-held Libyan capital Tripoli

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    The Libyan parliament aligned with strongman Khalifa Haftar issued a statement late Monday giving in-principle support to a threatened Egyptian military intervention against what it termed a "Turkish occupation".

    Egypt's President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi, alarmed by Haftar's setback, warned last month that Cairo could send troops into Libya.

    He threatened to send in his army if GNA forces capture Sirte, which is located more than 800 kilometres (500 miles) from the Egyptian border and now held by Haftar's troops backed by a local Salafist militia.

    The pro-Haftar parliament said Monday on its website that it would back an Egyptian intervention if necessary "to protect the national security of Libya and Egypt if they see an imminent danger to both our countries"

    Egypt's military said Saturday it had carried out exercises involving navy, airforce and special forces near the Libyan border in response to the "severe and rapid changes" in the region.

    The UAE on Tuesday issued an implicit warning to GNA forces advancing on Sirte.

    "The drums of the war raging around Sirte in Libya threaten serious developments and dangerous humanitarian and political consequences," tweeted its minister of state for foreign affairs, Anwar Gargash.

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    Bengazi faction Khalifa Haftar's 14-month campaign failed to take the capital Tripoli before the new front line solidified between Misrata and Sirte.

    Backed by Turkey, the Tripoli based faction has said it will recapture Sirte.

    But Egypt, which backs the LNA (Bengazi based) alongside the UAE and Russia, has threatened to send troops into Libya if the GNA (Tripoli based) and Turkish forces try to seize Sirte.

    The USA has said Moscow has sent warplanes to Libya via Syria in support of Russian mercenaries (Wagner group) who are fighting alongside the LNA. Libya in chaos since 2011 (NATO war) revolution against Muammar Qaddafi
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    Libyan GNA fighters head for front as battle for Sirte looms
    https://ca.news.yahoo.com/libyan-gna...190558750.html


    A member of the troops loyal to Libya's internationally recognized government rides a military vehicle as he prepares before heading to Sirte, on the outskirts of Misrata

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    Egypt's state-run al-Ahram daily reported on Sunday that the vote in Parliament was intended to mandate el-Sissi to “intervene militarily in Libya to help defend the western neighbor against Turkish aggression.”

    Last week, el-Sissi hosted dozens of tribal leaders loyal to Hifter in Cairo, where he repeated that Egypt will “not stand idly by in the face of moves that pose a direct threat to security.”

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    [QUOTE=anatta;1796067]updates for events/culture /terrorism/nation building -all things related to Libya that aren't necessarily current events;
    but are of interest/comments.
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    East Libyan forces launch air strike against rivals in central desert
    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-li...-idUSKBN14F0QV
    Forces loyal to Libya's eastern government said they had carried out an air strike against opponents in the central Jufra region on Monday.

    Ahmed al-Mismari, a spokesman for the eastern-based Libyan National Army (LNA), said the strike had targeted a camp used by the Benghazi Defence Brigades (BDB), a force that the LNA has previously clashed with.

    The LNA and the BDB are on opposite sides of a conflict in which two loose and shifting alliances have battled for power in Libya since 2014, aligning themselves with rival governments in Tripoli and the east.

    In recent months the LNA, led by Field Marshall Khalifa Haftar, has made military gains in Benghazi and Libya's Oil Crescent region, provoking several attempted counter-attacks by his rivals.

    I am waiting for you and anybody else around here to reply to my thread "Free officer Derik Chauvin."

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    UAE official tells Turkey to stop meddling in Arab affairs over Libya
    ReutersAugust 1, 2020, 4:31 AM

    DUBAI (Reuters) - The United Arab Emirates minister of state for foreign affairs said on Saturday that Turkey should stop interfering in Arab affairs, criticising comments on Libya made by Turkey's defence minister.

    Turkish media had reported the Turkish minister making remarks critical of the UAE's actions over Libya.

    The UAE, alongside Egypt and Russia, backs eastern Libya commander Khalifa Haftar, whose fighters have been battling the forces of the internationally recognized government in Tripoli. Turkey has stepped up support for the Tripoli government.

    "Relations are not managed by threats and there is no place for colonialist delusions in this day and age

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    Libya is turning into a battle lab for air warfare
    https://www.defensenews.com/smr/nato...r-air-warfare/
    During Libya’s proxy war this year, the skies over the North African country have filled with Turkish and Chinese drones, Russian MiG 29s and Sukhoi 24s and Emirati Mirage 2000s — reportedly — with Turkish F-16s and Egyptian Rafales waiting in the wings.

    Russian air defense systems have taken down drones while fighters, civilians and air bases have been bombed by jets as C-130s and Turkish A400M aircraft keep up deliveries of new weaponry and fighters into the country.

    In short, Libya has been transformed this year into something of an air warfare laboratory, begging the question, what exactly is going on, who is winning and what has this conflict taught generals about modern air combat?

    “On one level, Libya yet again simply underscores the value of air power – you do not want to get in a fight without it,” said Douglas Barrie, Senior Fellow for Military Aerospace at the International Institute for Strategic Studies in London.

    The conflict in lawless Libya began to escalate in April 2019 as local strongman General Khalifa Haftar launched his campaign to take the capital Tripoli. Backed by Egypt, the United Arab Emirates, Russia and France, he felt confident going up against the UN-recognized government in Tripoli backed by Turkey, Italy and Qatar.

    In April last year, Chinese Wing Loon II drones operated by the UAE bombed civilian targets in the city, reflecting the recent, and rapid, procurement of Chinese drones around the Middle East.

    “The Chinese have been adept at selling drones in the Middle East, including to Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Egypt and Iraq. With the US previously constrained in selling systems, the Chinese saw a gap in the market,” said Barrie.

    round May 2019, it introduced its own TB2 drone into the fray, attacking Haftar’s forces, knocking out Russian Pantsir air defense systems supporting him and helping end his ambitions to take Tripoli.

    “Turkey has majored in UAV design and manufacture and likely used Libya in part as a test and adjust battle lab, and its systems are now ‘combat proven’. Its industry, like Roketsan, has also developed small, precision-guided munitions for UAVs,” Barrie said.

    A second analyst said Turkey’s use of its TB2 in Libya had been a game changer. “Turkey decided it was okay to lose them from time to time, that they were semi-disposable, and that novel approach caught their enemy off guard,” said Jalel Harchaoui at the Clingendael Institute in Holland.

    The reason? Cost. “They used to cost the Turks $1-1.5 million apiece to build, but thanks to economies of scale as production volumes rose, the cost has dropped to below $500,000, excluding the control station,” said Harchaoui.

    He added that software and other technical changes had boosted the TB2′s efficiency and reconnaissance capabilities, which allowed them to find the right altitude to avoid the Russian Pantsir systems.

    “The performance of the Wing Loon II’s in the hands of the UAE has meanwhile been largely static. They didn’t evolve, so they have been much less impressive,” he said.

    Barrie said Libya was another example of the normalization of drone use in modern warfare.

    “UAVs are a capability now pursued by state and non-state actors alike. Obviously states can afford more capable, larger systems, while non-state actors may have to make do with home-built systems akin to being made with Radio Shack-like components, or acquiring systems from state sponsors.”

    He added,
    “In Libya UAVs have suited this kind of ugly, attritional warfare against small, lightly armed units.”
    The use of manned fighters in Libya has meanwhile been characterized by major powers sending them in on the quiet, with no announcement.
    https://www.defensenews.com/smr/nato...r-air-warfare/

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    Turkey deploys its latest air defense system to Al-Watiya airbase in Libya
    https://defence-blog.com/news/army/t...-in-libya.html


    Turkey has reportedly sent its latest self-propelled air-defense gun system, called the KORKUT, to Lybia.

    The KORKUT is newly designed and developed for effective ground based air defense against modern air threats. The system consists of a platoon of three 35 mm Gun Systems and one Command Post that can operate full autonomously.

    The Command and Control Vehicle detects and tracks targets with its 3D search radar and while developing a local air picture, evaluates threats and assigns targets to the Weapon System Vehicles. Meanwhile, the Weapon System Vehicles trace the target with fire control radar and generates firepower with two 35 mm guns using fragmentation ammunition.

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