Maher calls out Trumpkin evangelicals for what they are: Shameless hypocrites

[domer76]

Indeed, God uses who He wants, when He wants, without permission of the man. God does not produce evil....man does through his free will decisions, as man is made in the image of God....God is a spirit, thus man is like God in the fact that he can and does choose between good and evil. God allows nature to take its course, there is nothing evil in nature, nature is neither good nor evil, there are NO sins in the animal kingdom, only man is capable of sinning. God does not make man sin...man chooses to go against the revealed laws of morality that God has revealed. The law only defines sin, it does not engage sin, man does that.

Thus...God can and does make predetermined plans and makes them come true not because He can see into some magical future that does not yet exist, even God can't see into a future that is not guaranteed to exist. God makes plans of what He sometimes wants to happen...He then manipulates this natural world through natural events to make that which He has predetermined come to pass. God does not need the permission of man to manipulate that which He has created...He just plans and then executes that plan WHEN THE TIME that HE HAS PREDETERMINED COMES TO PASS.

God does not require men to be Special to use them, He has no respect of person, the Christian is no more valuable to God than the sinner...the rain falls on everyone equally, naturally.

All the above can be demonstrated to be True Doctrine as revealed in Scripture.

As I have judged, as based upon the objective testable evidence....your guild is nothing but pure EVIL and God loves a good Joke just like everyone. If you don't believe that simply look at the duck billed platypus.

God appoints ALL GOVERMENTS. Romans 13:1-7

FYI: The difference between your entertainer and TRUMP? Trump is PRESIDENT ELECT....mr. bill is a demonstrated liar that never gets anything correct as proven by the facts. Another difference? mr. bill is a self professed social elite communist, that hypocritically uses gullible asses such as you to make his own personal fortune. Mr Trump is a free market capitalist. God decided to appoint the capitalist this time around...he did not require your permission nor mr. bills....He just did it because He is God and can do it...what His plans are....who knows...only God.

And me? I love a good Joke....you were already measuring the drapes for Hillary. God said, no, not this time...do not pass go, go directly to jail.

More horseshit. If your god is omniscient, there is no free will. He knows what everyone will do before they do it. If he is omnibenevolent and omnipotent, he prevents evil. But he's none of the above. If he exists, he's AWOL.

As far as your quotes of scripture to validate scripture:

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[Ralph]

Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then He is not omnipotent.
Is He able, but not willing? Then He is malevolent.
Is He both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is He neither able nor willing? Then why call Him God?

Epicurus

Man makes free will decisions. God defines sin through the revealed moral laws. The law does nothing but define Sin...man is made in the image of God (God is a spirit) and in the fact that he has the free will to determine between good and evil. God does not allow nor direct that decision, that would not be FREE WILL. God made natural laws to govern and regulate this plain of physical reality. There is nothing evil nor sinful in nature, its neither good nor evil...there is no sin in the animal kingdom..nature just takes it course. God does not allow evil....God defines EVIL...man freely chooses to engage in that evil or not to engage in that evil.

All men die, nature takes its course...innocent children die every day, good men die every day, bad men die every day. Every man regardless if they are evil or good has an appointment with death. Its not evil when nature takes the life of someone. Its evil when some man decides to take the life of the innocent through their free will choices. Does that make God a liar? of course not.

God has said He has no respect of person...the rain falls on the just and the unjust. In other words NATURE HAPPENS...all men die, some die premature because they have made errant decisions. Children die, the children of Christians and Sinners alike...does that make God evil...of course not, it makes God truthful. He does not interfere with the natural laws of physics....the rain falls on the just and the unjust.

The only exception are the supernatural acts recorded in scripture...and they do not to pick and choose between men, the only time God intervenes with the natural word is when NEW REVELATIONS from God are to be confirmed with signs and wonders. These signs and wonders were never engaged by God to choose who is evil and who is good they were never used to benefit any special group of people they were used to confirm the%

[PostmodernProphet]

Such horseshit

I am not surprised that you cannot understand basic logic......

[domer76]

Man makes free will decisions. God defines sin through the revealed moral laws. The law does nothing but define Sin...man is made in the image of God (God is a spirit) and in the fact that he has the free will to determine between good and evil. God does not allow nor direct that decision, that would not be FREE WILL. God made natural laws to govern and regulate this plain of physical reality. There is nothing evil nor sinful in nature, its neither good nor evil...there is no sin in the animal kingdom..nature just takes it course. God does not allow evil....God defines EVIL...man freely chooses to engage in that evil or not to engage in that evil.

All men die, nature takes its course...innocent children die every day, good men die every day, bad men die every day. Every man regardless if they are evil or good has an appointment with death. Its not evil when nature takes the life of someone. Its evil when some man decides to take the life of the innocent through their free will choices. Does that make God a liar? of course not.

God has said He has no respect of person...the rain falls on the just and the unjust. In other words NATURE HAPPENS...all men die, some die premature because they have made errant decisions. Children die, the children of Christians and Sinners alike...does that make God evil...of course not, it makes God truthful. He does not interfere with the natural laws of physics....the rain falls on the just and the unjust.

The only exception are the supernatural acts recorded in scripture...and they do not to pick and choose between men, the only time God intervenes with the natural word is when NEW REVELATIONS from God are to be confirmed with signs and wonders. These signs and wonders were never engaged by God to choose who is evil and who is good they were never used to benefit any special group of people they were used to confirm the%

Amazing that you can concoct a pile of horsehit that deep.

[domer76]

I am not surprised that you cannot understand basic logic......

You can't refute the logic of Epicurus, so you call it illogical. And you think your book of myths IS logic? (laughing)

[Ralph]

More horseshit. If your god is omniscient, there is no free will. He knows what everyone will do before they do it. If he is omnibenevolent and omnipotent, he prevents evil. But he's none of the above. If he exists, he's AWOL.

As far as your quotes of scripture to validate scripture:

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Enlighten us....how can God know what's going to happen before it happens in a Natural World? How can God determine what man is to think in making free will decisions? There is no such thing as a time line that exists concurrently with the past, the present, and the future....running together. And how do you determine that's its Gods will to stop evil from existing? God does not make, stop, nor prevent evil.....He simply defines what is evil through the morality of His law. Evil cannot exist void of man breaking that law and sinning...thus EVIL is the fault of man not God for defining evil...but man due to the fact of his choosing evil actions. God allows the rain to fall where it will...

Even God cannot see into a natural future that has no guarantees of coming into existence. What makes Him omnipotent is the way He manipulates TODAY...the only reality of this existence. He makes plans of what He wants to happen...then at the appointed time of His choosing, He manipulates the present to make that plan happen....

What makes God...omni-present is the revelation that He is a spirit that created the natural world. We all live within that Spirit called God. What? Could your hand not manipulate your foot...etc.., or could a single cell of your body look upon the entirety of your body? Of course not....that's why men seek God...but never really see God, they just know that He exists...and the Kingdom of God, is not here, its not there.....it exists within the believer within the heart..i.e., the spirit of man. All these truths are revealed in scripture.

One thing for sure.....the created sum that is man, can never profess to be either equal or greater than the sum from which he was subtracted. Its funny when men declare themselves the master of their own world. When they exist only through the grace of the creator. Every breath you take might be your last one.....the sun could go super nova in the next instant. Control is nothing but an illusion made by pompous people who only assume themselves to be SMART. Priceless.

[PostmodernProphet]

You can't refute the logic of Epicurus

actually I just did.....are you as stupid as Epicurus?.....or can you defend the argument from my refutation?......

[PostmodernProphet]

If your god is omniscient, there is no free will

if there is no free will, who dictated your post to you?....the fallacy in your argument above is that you assume his fore-knowledge CAUSES our actions.....this cannot be true because we do not know what his fore-knowledge is.......in truth, our actions CAUSE his fore-knowledge.....

If he is omnibenevolent and omnipotent, he prevents evil.

false premise.....the alternative is that if he is omni-benevolent he permits us to choose our own actions and deal with the consequences.......

[Ralph]

actually I just did.....are you as stupid as Epicurus?.....

Truth has no refutation. Logic cannot possibly exist where truth fails to exist.

[domer76]

Enlighten us....how can God know what's going to happen before it happens in a Natural World? How can God determine what man is to think in making free will decisions? There is no such thing as a time line that exists concurrently with the past, the present, and the future....running together. And how do you determine that's its Gods will to stop evil from existing? God does not make, stop, nor prevent evil.....He simply defines what is evil through the morality of His law. Evil cannot exist void of man breaking that law and sinning...thus EVIL is the fault of man not God for defining evil...but man due to the fact of his choosing evil actions. God allows the rain to fall where it will...

Even God cannot see into a natural future that has no guarantees of coming into existence. What makes Him omnipotent is the way He manipulates TODAY...the only reality of this existence. He makes plans of what He wants to happen...then at the appointed time of His choosing, He manipulates the present to make that plan happen....

What makes God...omni-present is the revelation that He is a spirit that created the natural world. We all live within that Spirit called God. What? Could your hand not manipulate your foot...etc.., or could a single cell of your body look upon the entirety of your body? Of course not....that's why men seek God...but never really see God, they just know that He exists...and the Kingdom of God, is not here, its not there.....it exists within the believer within the heart..i.e., the spirit of man. All these truths are revealed in scripture.

One thing for sure.....the created sum that is man, can never profess to be either equal or greater than the sum from which he was subtracted. Its funny when men declare themselves the master of their own world. When they exist only through the grace of the creator. Every breath you take might be your last one.....the sun could go super nova in the next instant. Control is nothing but an illusion made by pompous people who only assume themselves to be SMART. Priceless.

(laughing) Where do you get all this horseshit? Does this god speak to you directly so that you can fathom his thoughts and intentions? Dubious. What you do demonstrate, however, is your inability to recognize the circularity of your arguments. Pitiable and laughable at the same time.

[domer76]

actually I just did.....are you as stupid as Epicurus?.....or can you defend the argument from my refutation?......

You had no argument. Just your opinion that some supernatural being created us to prevent evil. Holy shit! Do you see how ridiculous it is that you would consider that some sort of "logical argument"? Laughable

[Billy Batts]

Sorry Atheist:

[PostmodernProphet]

You had no argument. Just your opinion that some supernatural being created us to prevent evil. Holy shit! Do you see how ridiculous it is that you would consider that some sort of "logical argument"? Laughable

I find it amusing that you can't even recognize a logical argument....perhaps if you ever go to school you could get your teacher to explain it to you.....perhaps Epicurus could have explained it to you.....if he hadn't died centuries ago in a barbaric, uneducated civilization.......

[domer76]

if there is no free will, who dictated your post to you?....the fallacy in your argument above is that you assume his fore-knowledge CAUSES our actions.....this cannot be true because we do not know what his fore-knowledge is.......in truth, our actions CAUSE his fore-knowledge.....


false premise.....the alternative is that if he is omni-benevolent he permits us to choose our own actions and deal with the consequences.......

My point is, dunce, that there IS free will. That's because there is no omniscient super being in the sky that knows all and sees all. YOUR free will claim is a copout to justify why your god is feckless against evil.

[domer76]

I find it amusing that you can't even recognize a logical argument....perhaps if you ever go to school you could get your teacher to explain it to you.....perhaps Epicurus could have explained it to you.....if he hadn't died centuries ago in a barbaric, uneducated civilization.......

A logical argument with the main premise of a supernatural being. Just fucking priceless!