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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonthecat View Post
    Plants are "harvested". Animals are killed and slaughtered.
    You don't have to kill in order to survive.
    You kill because you enjoy killing.
    You should be ashamed.
    I'm not ashamed of enjoying hunting and fishing. Humans have been hunting and fishing for food for thousands of years and everything I kill or that my dad or my brother kills is never wasted. If you eat meat in any way then it had to die for you to eat it, even at a restaurant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norah View Post
    I'm not ashamed of enjoying hunting and fishing. Humans have been hunting and fishing for food for thousands of years and everything I kill or that my dad or my brother kills is never wasted. If you eat meat in any way then it had to die for you to eat it, even at a restaurant.
    You do not have to personally kill. You personally kill for the personal enjoyment it brings to you.
    You can not be proud of the lust you have for bringing death to a sentient animal.
    Whether or not you waste food is irrelevant to this conversation.
    We have the intellect to imagine the finality of our own demise but do not have the sophistication to overcome our survival instinct and accept it.
    Solution? Magical thinking and childish promises of everlasting life.
    Ergo, religion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonthecat View Post
    You do not have to personally kill. You personally kill for the personal enjoyment it brings to you.
    You can not be proud of the lust you have for bringing death to a sentient animal.
    Whether or not you waste food is irrelevant to this conversation.
    May I ask you if you consider eating meat at say a restaurant as an endorsement for the act of killing that animal that you are eating? When you eat and enjoy a steak aren't you making it possible for sentient animals to be killed for you and in the future for you? Do you condemn the person that kills the cow that provided you with that steak?

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    Is it cruel to raise cattle for slaughter and then have that meat sold to stores or restaurants like what happens to the cattle back at my parents house, or is it only cruel to shoot and kill one deer and have that meat feed a family for a good amount of time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norah View Post
    No we don't, but when my dad and I go hunting its a great time to bond and spend time together. If we happen to get lucky enough to harvest an animal for food then it's just a good bonus.
    Speaking as a dad I can assure you that he cherishes these opportunities more than you know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    Speaking as a dad I can assure you that he cherishes these opportunities more than you know.
    Thanks he's always been very supportive of all of my interests from hunting and fishing to barrel racing and my horses to raising FFA competition livestock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norah View Post
    I can understand that, hunting isn't for everybody. I don't like to see animals suffer either and so it's why if you do hunt that you know what you're doing and you take it seriously.
    you are hunting because it's fun to kill things. I assure you that you weren't pulled to it initially because of the great calling of making sure to keep the population at an equilibrium with their environment. Don't lie to yourself. When you pull that trigger and you see an animal flop over dead, it gives you a rush. Humans have been hunters for millennia. It's in your blood. Embrace it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonthecat View Post
    Plants are "harvested". Animals are killed and slaughtered.
    You don't have to kill in order to survive.
    You kill because you enjoy killing.
    You should be ashamed.
    if you eat meat you are a hypocrite.


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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    I just could not kill animals


    I cant even watch them eat each other onn tv
    Yea you probably could if you were hungry enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norah View Post
    Deer and ducks! About a month to go!
    Nothing saddens me as an outdoorsman than the advent of hunting season. It is a harbinger of the worst news of the year. Fishing season will soon be over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    but do you ever ask yourself why killing is fun for you
    It's not the killing that's fun Desh. It's the hunt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norah View Post
    I wouldn't describe the killing part as fun like fun in the same way as other hobbies and interests of mine, but more of a combination of excitement, bonding, learning, and satisfaction. It's exciting to go out in the woods and do something so primitive and instinctual. It's bonding because you get to spend time with your family or friends that go with you. You learn because you learn from mistakes that you make and how to do things better while out there. And satisfaction knowing that you have secured good food for yourself or others that you didn't have to rely on anyone else for. Does that make sense?
    I would.

    I mean people these days are so disconnected from where their food comes from that it's pathetic. Most have never gutted a fish let alone raised a hog and butchered it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    there are other ways to fulfill those areas
    None of which are nearly as tasty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    humans are omnivores


    I eat meat


    I have fished


    its not my fav



    I just cant imagine combining killing things with fun
    It's mostly not. In hunting the kill is anticlimactic. It's the hunt that's fun and challenging. It gives you a greater appreciation and connection to your food to know what it is and where it came from and how it got to your plate.

    One of the most troubling things I've ever experiences is butchering a hog. The hog knows...oh boy...this is it...their going to kill me...and they act accordingly. They freak out. They panic. They grieve. It's not a pleasant experience...but when all is said and done...those center cut chops sure are tasty.
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