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    Default Trump's US business empire holds at least $650 million in debt

    A New York Times investigation into Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump's US real-estate holdings revealed that companies he owns have at least $650 million in debt — twice the amount that Trump's public filings, made as part of his campaign, show.

    Trump's dealings also depend on a variety of sources, one of which he has repeatedly attacked during his campaign: China, The Times found.

    Among the specifics, The Times reports that:

    • An office building in Manhattan, which Trump partly owns, carries a $950 million loan, partially overseen by the Bank of China, one of the largest in the country.
    • A "substantial portion" of Trump's wealth stems from three partnerships that owe another $2 billion. While Trump may not be held personally liable if the loans went into default, the value of his investments would drop.
    • In 2015, Trump borrowed $160 million from Ladder Capital, a small New York firm, which his financial-disclosure form simply lists as valued at more than $50 million.
    • The publication found three instances where Trump had ownership interest in a building but did not disclose the related debt. Of these investments, one again involves a partial loan from the Bank of China.

    For the investigation, The Times partnered with national property-information firm RedVision Systems to search publicly available data on more than 30 US properties, identified through Federal Election Commission (FEC) filings and information provided by Trump, like filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC).

    Although the investigation covered a variety of documents and records, The Times concentrated on commercial holdings, such as office towers, golf courses, residential properties, and other endeavors, but exempted Trump's businesses outside the US.

    http://www.aol.com/article/2016/08/2...busi/21455595/


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    Real estate developers tend to carry lots of debt. Trump out of the ordinary?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Real estate developers tend to carry lots of debt. Trump out of the ordinary?
    Why didn't he disclose it as part of his public filings?


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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    Why didn't he disclose it as part of his public filings?
    I have a hard time generating then interest to care to be honest (not that others shouldn't). What is the Times arguing the problem is here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    I have a hard time generating then interest to care to be honest (not that others shouldn't). What is the Times arguing the problem is here?
    Yet others will claim that he is only doing it to help his businesses, despite the fact that takings and bookings are well down at his casinos, hotels and golf courses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Real estate developers tend to carry lots of debt.
    They do? Says who?

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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    Why didn't he disclose it as part of his public filings?
    Cawacko is lying. So is Trump

    Let’s look at take a look at the size of his true debt load.

    In a balance sheet unveiled on June 16th of last year, the day he announced his candidacy, Trump declared a net worth of $8.7 billion, a figure updated in the July release to “in excess of TEN BILLION DOLLARS,” the only words emblazoned in capital letters.

    The June balance sheet does list debt of $503 million, which is labeled “loans and mortgages,” a seemingly modest figure for a tycoon of his self-declared “massive” wealth. But a lot more debt is connected to his buildings than Trump is letting on.

    In fact, Trump is subtracting the mortgage amounts to arrive at the equity figure for some holdings. Others he is presenting at full value. But it appears that only the loans on the properties that are held at full value are making into that $503 million number.

    Take the asset category labeled “Real Properties owned less than 100% by Donald J. Trump.” The two dominant holdings there are 1290 Avenue of the Americas in Manhattan, and 555 California Street, the former Bank of America complex, in San Francisco. In both of those office holdings, Trump’s partner is Vornado Realty Trust VNO -1.75% , a highly successful REIT led by CEO Steven Roth.

    Trump gives the partnership bucket on his balance sheet a total value of $943 million, “net of debt.” How much debt? Vornado’s 10-K discloses that 1290 carries a mortgage of $950 million, and 555 is encumbered by a loan of $589 million. Trump, according to the Vornado filings, owns 30% of the two buildings. That means Trump’s share of the overall borrowings of $1.55 billion is $465 million.

    That brings Trump’s debt figure up to at least $968 million. But we’re not done yet.

    Trump has other loans that are lying under camouflage as well. Trump’s balance sheet also has a category label “other assets” that he’s claiming are worth $317 million. Those assets, like the partially owned buildings, are listed as “net of debt.”

    What is that other stuff? Trump doesn’t say but it could include such things as five airplanes, a golf production company, the rights to operate the skating rink in New York Central Park as well as the Ferry Golf course in the Bronx, and Trump Model Management. But while Trump discloses how much income he gets from these assets and a range for their worth, he doesn’t say how much he has borrowed against them, or how much he owes on other unidentified assets that may provide security for loans.

    The bigger problem is this: While Trump says that he has netted the debt out of his partially owned properties, it doesn’t appear he has.

    Either that or he has grossly inflated the value of the properties.

    The only financial statement that Trump has released—the one from June—is two years old. The value of those properties have surely increased since then.

    Given what real estate values have done since then, Trump’s 30% stake of the buildings is around $1.1 billion. Subtract around $100 million for a third minority holding—his 50% share in the Trump Hotel International Hotel Las Vegas—and Trump is effectively boasting that his equity in the Vornado-Trump office towers is worth $1 billion or more.

    Indeed, his share of these two high-rises would be worth $1 billion—if it they didn’t have big mortgages. Top tenants occupy 2.1 million feet of space in 1290 Avenue of the Americas, and 1.8m million at 555 California, and according to Vornado’s 10-K, both are getting $65 to $70 a foot in rent.

    By Fortune’s estimates, their market values, pre-debt, are around $1.6 billion for 1290, and $1.5 billion for 555. So Trump’s 30% share of that combined $3.1 billion is around $930 million. Add the $100 million or so from the Las Vegas hotel, and we arrive at a sum approaching what Trump declares for his partnership properties.

    But that’s before subtracting mortgage debt. Nor does Trump’s share in the cash flow generated by these holdings support his claim of a $10 billion-plus net worth. In the 10-K, Vornado states that its share in the EBITDA from 555 is $49.975 million.

    Hence, Trump’s share is just over $21 million. Deduct his portion of the interest expense—the rate on the $589 million loan is 3.34%—as well as his pro-rata contribution to capital expenditures for upkeep, and he probably nets around $9 million a year.

    Running the same calculation for 1290, Trump’s share of the cash flow would come to about $10 million. And that’s before taxes, making the real net a mystery, since Donald may prove the only nominee in modern history not to release his tax returns.

    The two Vornado-Trump towers account for more than one-third of Trump’s portfolio of office and retail space, and produce much bigger rents than his largest building, 40 Wall Street. So a major bulwark of his empire is generating only around $20 million in pre-tax, free cash flow.

    Any observer who knows numbers would expect a billionaire worth “in excess of $10 billion” to be collecting around $500 million before taxes. Trump surely has plenty of real income beyond that $20 million, but given the importance of the partnership properties, it’s hard to see how his total income, as normally defined, gets beyond $100 million, let alone five-times that number.

    If he becomes president, Trump’s biggest challenge could be tackling the debt explosion looming just a few years away.

    His lack of disclosure on his loans suggests he won’t exactly dig into identifying the danger zones as America’s outlays rapidly outstrip its revenues. It would be great if a potential president also had excellent business sense, displaying a sober mastery of numbers and an attention to detail, who could determine and explain what’s required to rein in future deficits.

    What America needs isn’t a promoter but a fiscal pragmatist, and that isn’t Donald Trump.




    http://fortune.com/2016/03/23/donald-trump-debt/

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