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    Quote Originally Posted by Mott the Hoople View Post
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    PAY ATTENTION IT'S FUNNY AND MAKES A POINT


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mott the Hoople View Post
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    It's boring.
    Excellence is an art won by training and habituation. We do not act rightly because we have virtue or excellence, but rather we have those because we have acted rightly. We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act but a habit.
    - -- Aristotle

    Believe nothing on the faith of traditions, even though they have been held in honor for many generations and in diverse places. Do not believe a thing because many people speak of it. Do not believe on the faith of the sages of the past. Do not believe what you yourself have imagined, persuading yourself that a God inspires you. Believe nothing on the sole authority of your masters and priests. After examination, believe what you yourself have tested and found to be reasonable, and conform your conduct thereto.
    - -- The Buddha

    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
    - -- Aristotle

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    Hmm should we have science declared a religion ?

    Interesting ramifications there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by uscitizen View Post
    Hmm should we have science declared a religion ?

    Interesting ramifications there.
    If we believe that the Big Bang happened and that the first atom just magically existed, and if we believe that Abiogenesis (the definitive origin of evolution) happened and that the first strands of molecules magically existed with 30-40 stands of enzymes already built up - then yes.

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    sounds good to me. Now Science can be tax exempt

    And science will no longer be allowed to be criticized.
    It would be antiscientic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Threedee View Post
    That is ok. I do not need Jesus to love me.
    but he can if he wants to.
    In the brotherly sense only of course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Threedee View Post
    If we believe that the Big Bang happened and that the first atom just magically existed, and if we believe that Abiogenesis (the definitive origin of evolution) happened and that the first strands of molecules magically existed with 30-40 stands of enzymes already built up - then yes.
    You never took many sciences classes, did you Three?

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    "A Canticle for Leibowitz"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grind View Post
    PAY ATTENTION IT'S FUNNY AND MAKES A POINT
    Being pretty cetain the Earth and universe exhisted before man--or their belief in a god--I am not sure what that point may be. Care to explain it to us in some detail? Does that cartoon mean that Science will eventually squash out belief in a god?
    Last edited by theMAJORITY; 12-07-2007 at 08:28 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diuretic View Post
    "A Canticle for Leibowitz"
    I'd completely forgotten about that most excellent book! Truly, that is one of the very best I've ever read. Thanks, I'm going to try to get a used copy; I'm sure that it's no longer in print.
    My goal in life is to be as good a person as my dog thinks I am.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorn View Post
    I'd completely forgotten about that most excellent book! Truly, that is one of the very best I've ever read. Thanks, I'm going to try to get a used copy; I'm sure that it's no longer in print.
    It was a great book, I read it many years ago but it stayed with me and just came back immediately. I would think my original copy was lost or stolen (moved house many times since then) but surely a good second hand bookshop will have it? Or Amazon? Maybe Ebay? It's a classic, it should never be allowed out of print.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diuretic View Post
    It was a great book, I read it many years ago but it stayed with me and just came back immediately. I would think my original copy was lost or stolen (moved house many times since then) but surely a good second hand bookshop will have it? Or Amazon? Maybe Ebay? It's a classic, it should never be allowed out of print.
    Barnes and Noble online has a secondhand service; I was able to get a copy of Gary Jennings' "Aztec" that way. I think you'd like it, BTW. I'm going to try to get "Liebowitz" through that channel, first. We don't have any second hand bookstores here of any merit. Most of them specialize in bibles. no lie.
    My goal in life is to be as good a person as my dog thinks I am.

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