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    Default Ten things you should know about Mike Pence

    Here's what you need to know about him:

    1. Yes, he's that guy from the last year's religious freedom debate

    ...he became a household name when he signed a religious freedom bill into law in 2015. Pence said it would extend legal protections to religious Indiana business owners who don't want to participate in same sex weddings — but opponents argued he was sanctioning discrimination.

    2. He's a social conservative

    Pence is a devout evangelical Christian who regularly talks about his faith. (He likes describes himself as "a Christian, a conservative and a Republican, in that order.") This spring, Pence signed into law one of the strictest abortion laws in the nation. Indiana is now the second state in the nation to ban abortions because the fetus has a disability, a law likely to be challenged in court.

    3. He's facing a competitive reelection race
    At least: he was. Pence will have to drop out of his reelection bid now if he becomes Trump's vice presidential nominee — which may be a good thing for him, given the religious freedom debate did Pence no favors in his reelection bid.

    4. He was an early advocate for the tea party movement
    One of Pence's former advisers told NBC that even before the 2010 summer of discontent between conservatives and the establishment, Pence was tuned into the populist strain of the party. While in Congress, he voted against big spending bills that the tea party would come to loathe.

    5. He endorsed Ted Cruz for president


    6. Paul Ryan likes him
    And before he came to Congress, Pence hosted a talk radio show, calling himself "Rush Limbaugh on decaf."

    7. He once challenged John Boehner for his party's leadership spot in the House

    Pence may have harbored dreams of being House speaker himself. In 2006, while Republicans were still in the minority, Pence decided to run for the leader of the party against a guy named John Boehner. It didn't go so well. Pence, who positioned himself as the conservative in the race, lost in a vote among fellow House Republicans 168-27.

    8. He's long been viewed as a potential presidential candidate

    In 2010, conservative activists at a Values Voter Summit voted Pence their top choice for a 2012 presidential candidate, a key test of grassroots support (but not one that's necessarily indicative of success). Interestingly, Pence's 2016 veep competition, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich was also on that straw poll and came in fourth.
    Pence's name was floated in 2008 too as a potential presidential contender. Pence decided to stay in Indiana and run for governor, where he eked out a win against Gregg.

    9. He's got ties to the Koch brothers

    The billionaire brothers have so far stayed out of the presidential race, a sign they're no fans of Trump. But their 2016 involvement could change with Pence by Trump's side: The resumes of several of Pence's top aides also include stints with the Koch brothers' vast corporate and political networks.

    10. He grew up as a Democrat

    And idolizing John F. Kennedy. Pence told CBN News in a 2010 interview "It may be that I grew up in a big Irish Catholic family like he did. Maybe it was that my grandparents were so proud of the first Irish Catholic president." He even still has a box of Kennedy paraphernalia.

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politi...O1v?li=BBnb7Kz


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    1. Yes, he's that guy from the last year's religious freedom debate


    I probably would have signed it too.


    2. He's a social conservative


    I am too.

    3. He's facing a competitive reelection race

    He would have probably won.

    4. He was an early advocate for the tea party movement

    Kind of like Trump's supporters. Really won't expand Trump's base of support will he.


    5. He endorsed Ted Cruz for president


    I would have voted for Ted over Hillary

    6. Paul Ryan likes him

    Paul Ryan is ok by me


    7. He once challenged John Boehner for his party's leadership spot in the House


    Yep. He is supposedly anti-establishment after all. Boehner is completely establishment.


    8. He's long been viewed as a potential presidential candidate


    I'd never heard of him before today. But then I've been out of the loop politically for a long time.


    9. He's got ties to the Koch brothers


    The Kochs don't like Trump because _______. (FITB) So they're going to support him now if this guy is,the VP candidate? Mmm....


    10. He grew up as a Democrat


    I did too... Still am. A very socially conservative, fiscally moderate democrat. A vanishing breed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    Here's what you need to know about him:

    1. Yes, he's that guy from the last year's religious freedom debate

    ...he became a household name when he signed a religious freedom bill into law in 2015. Pence said it would extend legal protections to religious Indiana business owners who don't want to participate in same sex weddings — but opponents argued he was sanctioning discrimination.

    2. He's a social conservative

    Pence is a devout evangelical Christian who regularly talks about his faith. (He likes describes himself as "a Christian, a conservative and a Republican, in that order.") This spring, Pence signed into law one of the strictest abortion laws in the nation. Indiana is now the second state in the nation to ban abortions because the fetus has a disability, a law likely to be challenged in court.

    3. He's facing a competitive reelection race
    At least: he was. Pence will have to drop out of his reelection bid now if he becomes Trump's vice presidential nominee — which may be a good thing for him, given the religious freedom debate did Pence no favors in his reelection bid.

    4. He was an early advocate for the tea party movement
    One of Pence's former advisers told NBC that even before the 2010 summer of discontent between conservatives and the establishment, Pence was tuned into the populist strain of the party. While in Congress, he voted against big spending bills that the tea party would come to loathe.

    5. He endorsed Ted Cruz for president


    6. Paul Ryan likes him
    And before he came to Congress, Pence hosted a talk radio show, calling himself "Rush Limbaugh on decaf."

    7. He once challenged John Boehner for his party's leadership spot in the House

    Pence may have harbored dreams of being House speaker himself. In 2006, while Republicans were still in the minority, Pence decided to run for the leader of the party against a guy named John Boehner. It didn't go so well. Pence, who positioned himself as the conservative in the race, lost in a vote among fellow House Republicans 168-27.

    8. He's long been viewed as a potential presidential candidate

    In 2010, conservative activists at a Values Voter Summit voted Pence their top choice for a 2012 presidential candidate, a key test of grassroots support (but not one that's necessarily indicative of success). Interestingly, Pence's 2016 veep competition, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich was also on that straw poll and came in fourth.
    Pence's name was floated in 2008 too as a potential presidential contender. Pence decided to stay in Indiana and run for governor, where he eked out a win against Gregg.

    9. He's got ties to the Koch brothers

    The billionaire brothers have so far stayed out of the presidential race, a sign they're no fans of Trump. But their 2016 involvement could change with Pence by Trump's side: The resumes of several of Pence's top aides also include stints with the Koch brothers' vast corporate and political networks.

    10. He grew up as a Democrat

    And idolizing John F. Kennedy. Pence told CBN News in a 2010 interview "It may be that I grew up in a big Irish Catholic family like he did. Maybe it was that my grandparents were so proud of the first Irish Catholic president." He even still has a box of Kennedy paraphernalia.

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politi...O1v?li=BBnb7Kz
    sounds pretty good....thanks.....

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    "It’s no secret that Indiana Gov. Mike Pence, Donald Trump’s reported pick for the Republican vice presidential nomination, opposes abortion rights. But this year he signed an anti-abortion bill that even some pro-life Republicans thought was too extreme, and which was blocked from going into effect late last month by a federal judge because it violated women’s right to choose.

    The law did something truly bizarre. It would have basically forced women to seek funerary services for a fetus — whether she’d had an abortion or a miscarriage, and no matter how far along the pregnancy was. The law Pence backed would have required all fetal tissue to be cremated or buried, an unprecedented measure in state law. The law also banned abortion if the fetus had a "disability" like Down syndrome, which would have also denied women the right to end a pregnancy in the event of more serious fetal anomalies.

    The wording of the burial provision meant that technically, even if a woman had a miscarriage at eight weeks of pregnancy at home, she would have to keep the blood and tissue, take it to a hospital, and have it buried or cremated by a funeral home."

    http://www.vox.com/2016/7/14/1219038...nerals-fetuses


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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    "It’s no secret that Indiana Gov. Mike Pence, Donald Trump’s reported pick for the Republican vice presidential nomination, opposes abortion rights. But this year he signed an anti-abortion bill that even some pro-life Republicans thought was too extreme, and which was blocked from going into effect late last month by a federal judge because it violated women’s right to choose.

    The law did something truly bizarre. It would have basically forced women to seek funerary services for a fetus — whether she’d had an abortion or a miscarriage, and no matter how far along the pregnancy was. The law Pence backed would have required all fetal tissue to be cremated or buried, an unprecedented measure in state law. The law also banned abortion if the fetus had a "disability" like Down syndrome, which would have also denied women the right to end a pregnancy in the event of more serious fetal anomalies.

    The wording of the burial provision meant that technically, even if a woman had a miscarriage at eight weeks of pregnancy at home, she would have to keep the blood and tissue, take it to a hospital, and have it buried or cremated by a funeral home."

    http://www.vox.com/2016/7/14/1219038...nerals-fetuses
    why wouldn't you have a funeral service for a miscarried child?.....

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