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Thread: 5 things you need to know about ... Mexican drug lord 'El Chapo' Guzman

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    Default 5 things you need to know about ... Mexican drug lord 'El Chapo' Guzman

    The article was written before his capture but I wanted to post this list. Note the number of deaths he's responsible for. Yet Muslim haters will ignore this and instead focus on what's happening in the ME rather than right across our border.

    Who is El Chapo?

    Here are 5 things you need to know about Mexico's most powerful -- now escaped -- drug lord:


    1. He's responsible for the deaths of at least 70,000 people.

    That number is according to Forbes, tracing back his cartel's tie to the Mexican drug violence that has claimed more than 100,000 lives. But he reportedly told Mexican officials, while being transferred to prison, that he'd killed 2,000-3,000.

    2. He's worth at least $1 billion

    A modern-day Al Capone, only in 2014 after his capture, did Forbes drop Guzman from its list of world's most powerful people. He'd been on the list since 2009, ranking as high as 41st spot. The magazine has also called him the "biggest drug lord of all time."

    3. He's escaped before

    After he was sentenced to 20 years in prison for murder and drug trafficking, it didn't take long for Guzman to own the place. He bribed guards and was able to escape his maximum-security prison in 2001. He managed to hide out in his various homes -- all equipped with escape tunnels -- and stayed on the move with his personal fleet of jets, submarines and trains to avoid authorities, and even managed to grow his empire before his recapture in 2014.

    4. He's been married several times

    First you get the money, then you get the power, then you get the women. Tony Montana didn't lie. Guzman has been married at least four times and sired 10 children -- most of whom have followed him into the drug trade. His latest wife is a former teen beauty queen with a U.S. passport. At 5-foot-6 (thus his nickname -- El Chapo means The Shorty), he's no less the romantic. One story tells of his attempt in his younger days at wooing a woman who worked at a village bank by hiring a plane to drop hundreds of flowers on the town. However, he's also known for a love of prostitutes.

    5. He's revered by many in Mexico

    Because of his vast empire, there were legitimate employment concerns when Guzman was nabbed in 2014. Many considered him as a Robin Hood of poor Mexican villages where his drug operation pumped millions into local economies. "He's helped a lot of people," Jesus Gonzalez, a church caretaker told the L.A. Times in 2014. "(Guzman) has given out a lot of money. He's built many things."

    http://www.torontosun.com/2015/07/13...l-chapo-guzman


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    There's bi-partisan appeal to reduce our drug war but especially calls for it from the left. Should we be increasing our drug war budget and expanding it further?

    Does one have to be a Muslim hater to be concerned over what's happening in the Middle East? If deaths or violence are a concern aren't more people dying and hurt in Syria than by El Chapo?

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    I can't wait for our military expedition into Mexico.
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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    Yet Muslim haters will ignore this and instead focus on what's happening in the ME rather than right across our border.
    I notice the Obama approach is to neglect both......what will Hilldreary do?.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    I notice the Obama approach is to neglect both......what will Hilldreary do?.....
    She'll sell him guns and let him cross the border with them, then try to use those same guns as a reason to prohibit certain types of weapons she sold to him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    She'll sell him guns and let him cross the border with them, then try to use those same guns as a reason to prohibit certain types of weapons she sold to him.
    Obama already tried that...

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    Why do I "need" to know these things?
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    Quote Originally Posted by J Craft View Post
    Obama already tried that...
    Yes, it was HillBillary who was counting up the supposed "US guns found" at the scenes of crimes in Mexico. But past performance is pretty indicative of future results with a politician.
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    Quote Originally Posted by J Craft View Post
    Obama already tried that...
    Actually Bush did but whatever.
    It is the responsibility of every American citizen to own a modern military rifle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rune View Post
    Actually Bush did but whatever.
    actually Obama did, but he said it was Bush's fault and you believed him......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rune View Post
    Actually Bush did but whatever.
    You wish.

    Differences to note:
    1. Bush actually tried to track the weapons, Obama's "plan" made no effort at tracking because the goal was to "find" the guns at crime scenes to use as political fodder.
    2. Bush informed the Mexican government and was working in concert with them, Obama did not and didn't seem to care when Mexicans died with weapons his policy sold to Cartel other than an attempt to use them to curb 2nd Amendment rights in the US.
    3. When Bush found out that the tracking wasn't working he stopped at right around 100 weapons, Obama did not they continued to sell weapons without an attempt to track them so they could later use the "crisis" they created to attempt to curb 2nd Amendment rights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    You wish.

    Differences to note:
    1. Bush actually tried to track the weapons, Obama's "plan" made no effort at tracking because the goal was to "find" the guns at crime scenes to use as political fodder.
    2. Bush informed the Mexican government and was working in concert with them, Obama did not and didn't seem to care when Mexicans died with weapons his policy sold to Cartel other than an attempt to use them to curb 2nd Amendment rights in the US.
    3. When Bush found out that the tracking wasn't working he stopped at right around 100 weapons, Obama did not they continued to sell weapons without an attempt to track them so they could later use the "crisis" they created to attempt to curb 2nd Amendment rights.
    Hmm.
    What second ammendment rights were curtailed?
    It is the responsibility of every American citizen to own a modern military rifle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    actually Obama did, but he said it was Bush's fault and you believed him......
    Either way I don't believe you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rune View Post
    Hmm.
    What second ammendment rights were curtailed?
    I said attempt. Do you ever read? They were caught with their hand in the jar as they tried pretending to be surprised to find the weapons and were using the "95% of weapons identified at crime scenes in Mexico came from the US" line to attempt to generate support to ban some weapons. The "short memories" of leftists make me laugh. You remember and know what I am talking about but deliberately ignore facts so you can pretend these people are in any way ethical.
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