The Palestinians were INVADED, fool. Izrael has defied international law for seventy years , murdered and displaced hundreds of thousands of indigenous Palestinians- and you're conditioned, probably for self-enrichment- to believe that the victims are ' terrorists '.
Haw, haw.................................haw.
" First they came for the journalists...
We don't know what happened after that . "
Maria Ressa.
cancel2 2022 (08-11-2020)
I'd like to carve out some grey area and remove the subject at hand to discuss it.
Let's assume total asymmetry between warring parties, a completely righteous cause, an oppressor, lack of technological capability to distinguish.
If you are asserting killing civilians is never justifiable, that's arguable, and to bring it back to the subject at hand, there is at least some of these elements at
play here.
Israel could obliterate the occupied or disputed territories of Palestine, Palestinian Authority or the agitators/terrorists (trying to pick a word here) don't have
smart missile tech, there is a righteous claim to self governance and land, they have been attacked on occasion in ways that also lacked strict adherence
to international law eg operation cast lead.
IOW, if all parties have to adhere to the rules, the little guy never wins. That's quite nearly axiomatic. After all, it is the winners who write the next set of rules.
So it is always a rigged game.
Not to say I can't argue the other side.
If it is existential and imperative to win, how can you say killing the other sides civilians is never justifiable? Were the American Indians to line up
in Roman columns against US guns on a battlefield for just war?
I try to avoid text walls so will just touch on the bolded: There's a clear difference between "killing civilians" and targeting civilians. It's clearly wrong, post-WWII, to target civilians. Even during and previous to WWII many thought it wrong, but the situation became either do it or lose the war to the fascists.
Trying to equate past wrongs with present wrongs means we've learned nothing and everything is justified. Bringing up Romans enslaving Germans or the Yankee treatment of Native Americans just muddies the waters when it comes to WWII or present-day Israel.
"Hatred is a failure of imagination" - Graham Greene, "The Power and the Glory"
I'm compelled by nothing but truth and observation, chum, and I speak as one who'd intended to become an Israeli (easy at the time if you weren't Muslim) until I met some Palestinians in a pub. They also explained that the Prophet had been misunderstood about booze, which I was glad to know!
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