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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    Disagreed as proved by your reiterating the question back to me. Fine. You are not required to answer the question and are free to condemn the US use of atomic bombs to end WWII. You are free to support the Soviet Union and present day Russia. I'm free to disagree.
    Almost everything you just wrote is false.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Almost everything you just wrote is false.
    You are not free? I'm sorry to hear that but I still disagree with you.
    God bless America and those who defend our Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    LOL I've been called worse by people a lot smarter than you'll ever be.
    Take stock of yourself, nuke-head. I'm not looking for the WORST description of a pompous twat like you- just an apt description.
    As for being smart- I'm not the nuke-head that lies and thinks it's OK to vaporize hundreds of thousands of civilians at a time. Best check your definition of ' smart '- 'cause you ain't it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    I'm not sure what that was.
    He is good at that. Talking shit and nonsense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grajonca View Post
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    Is there a question in this? My response was about Israel, not Hiroshima. The comment was "I think he is anti Zionist, as am I and pro Palestinian people, as am I. There is a big difference" and my response was "me, too."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Nope. The behind the scenes deal was already nearly finished. Japan was done, as Ike and Leahy said. But what do they know compared to you? We could have leveled those cities like we did the others and not used nukes. We owned the skies. We firebombed many. many cities and in some cities, killed more than the Abomb could have. It was a show of strength and a scientific experiment. They spent over a trillion dollars making those 2 bombs and were not going to skip seeing what they could do.
    I know you want to believe that stuff, but it just isn't true. It is what the victor says when it is over. They write the history. That is why we say we did not torture, but we did. We say we did not gun down unarmed citizens and children, but we did.
    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    Is there a question in this? My response was about Israel, not Hiroshima. The comment was "I think he is anti Zionist, as am I and pro Palestinian people, as am I. There is a big difference" and my response was "me, too."
    No, I posted to the wrong thread and removed it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    You're an established liar already.
    Wrong again. Everything that I've said is true.

    Hiroshima was a huge military port with tens of thousands of Japanese soldiers awaiting deployment to resist our invasion of Kyushu.

    Hiroshima was also the military headquarters responsible for repelling our invasion of Kyushu.

    Kokura Arsenal was a huge (4100 feet by 2000 feet) weapons manufacturing complex.


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    Move on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anvil Kasseri View Post
    Wrong again. Everything that I've said is true.
    That's what all established liars say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anvil Kasseri View Post


    I prefer to stay and make sure the truth has a voice.
    Thank you. I'll make sure that it's loud and frequent.


    The nukes were butchery, used to terrorize . No other description is accurate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    That's what all established liars say.
    The truth isn't a lie, no matter how inconvenient you find it.

    Hiroshima - This is an important army depot and port of embarkation in the middle of an urban industrial area. It is a good radar target and it is such a size that a large part of the city could be extensively damaged. There are adjacent hills which are likely to produce a focusing effect which would considerably increase the blast damage. Due to rivers it is not a good incendiary target. (Classified as an AA Target)

    Kokura Arsenal - This is one of the largest arsenals in Japan and is surrounded by urban industrial structures. The arsenal is important for light ordnance, anti-aircraft and beach head defense materials. The dimensions of the arsenal are 4100' x 2000'. The dimensions are such that if the bomb were properly placed full advantage could be taken of the higher pressures immediately underneath the bomb for destroying the more solid structures and at the same time considerable blast damage could be done to more feeble structures further away. (Classified as an A Target)

    Niigata - This is a port of embarkation on the N.W. coast of Honshu. Its importance is increasing as other ports are damaged. Machine tool industries are located there and it is a potential center for industrial dispersion. It has oil refineries and storage. (Classified as a B Target)

    http://www.dannen.com/decision/targets.html


    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    Thank you. I'll make sure that it's loud and frequent.
    So far all you have done is try to undermine the truth.


    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    The nukes were butchery, used to terrorize. No other description is accurate.
    Terrorists target civilians. The A-bomb targets were military ports and heavy war industry.

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    The nukes were butchery, used to terrorize. No other description is accurate.
    Hundreds of thousands of civilians were killed. It will never be forgiven.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    Hundreds of thousands of civilians were killed.
    Do you have an estimate of how many people would have been killed, on both sides, if the US had gone ahead and invaded Japan "conventionally"? That was the original plan.

    The only alternative would have been a total blockade of Japan until they capitulated. How many years and how many lives for that? Hell, it could still be going on.

    It was an incredibly difficult question but Truman made the right decision. He also made the right decision later when he refused to use nukes in Korea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    The nukes were butchery, used to terrorize. No other description is accurate.
    That is incorrect. Terrorists target civilians. The A-bombs were dropped on military targets.


    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    Hundreds of thousands of civilians were killed.
    Tens of thousands of enemy soldiers were killed. The military headquarters in charge of repelling our invasion was destroyed. Large weapon factories were smashed.


    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    It will never be forgiven.
    Are you under some kind of illusion that there is anything here that requires forgiveness?

    America is proud of the A-bombings. All those enemy soldiers and war factories wiped out in an instant. What would we need to be forgiven for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tranquillus in Exile View Post
    Do you have an estimate of how many people would have been killed, on both sides, if the US had gone ahead and invaded Japan "conventionally"?
    How many did the bombs kill, immediately and afterwards ?

    How many fried children have you seen ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anvil Kasseri View Post

    America is proud of the A-bombings.
    That being the case you wouldn't be here trying to cover your ass.

    You're out of your militaristic skull.
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