Was Hiroshima an act of terrorism?

[Cypress]

I'd have to research what was happening in Manchuria at the time, but given the US damage to Japan's supply lines, they may have been cut off. I won't diminish anything the Soviets did in killing Japanese, but it's not like they were White Knights rushing in to help us. They helped themselves.

Fair enough.

I do have to say it makes no sense to claim empathy for the victims of Stalin's crimes in the USSR, while also making statements that we should have nuked the USSR in 1945.

One contention claims to care about Soviet civilians.

The other statement shows a callous disregard for them.

Whatever citizens of the Soviet Union had to endure under Stalin, they were not asking to be rescued by being vaporized by American nuclear bombs.

[Doc Dutch]

Fair enough.

I do have to say it makes no sense to claim empathy for the victims of Stalin's crimes in the USSR, while also making statements that we should have nuked the USSR in 1945.

One contention claims to care about Soviet civilians.

The other statement shows a callous disregard for them.

Whatever citizens of the Soviet Union had to endure under Stalin, they were not asking to be rescued by being vaporized by American nuclear bombs.

Disagreed. It's akin to the argument of firebombing or nuking Japan; it's about what is best for the greater good. Is it better to kill a million Soviets to save the lives of 10 million Soviets? Again, the Trolly Problem.

[Cypress]

Disagreed. It's akin to the argument of firebombing or nuking Japan; it's about what is best for the greater good. Is it better to kill a million Soviets to save the lives of 10 million Soviets? Again, the Trolly Problem.

Japan attacked us.

The Soviet Union did not.

I realize you are trolling me by asserting we should have nuked USSR in 1945

[Doc Dutch]

Japan attacked us.

The Soviet Union did not.

I realize you are trolling me by asserting we should have nuked USSR in 1945

The Soviet Union was aligned with Hitler and brutally attacked their neighbors. They continued their brutality even after hostilities ended. Stalin was known to be a brutal dictator and nutjob. Do you really think he wasn't a threat?

Not trolling. I would have supported Patton and LeMay. As it was, it didn't happen and luckily the world survived the Cold War without a nuclear exchange.

[moon]

it's about what is best for the greater good. .

Suddenly you're a nuking socialist.
Haw, haw...........................haw.

Give it up, pal. Your promotion of mass murder marks you as a throwback.

[Doc Dutch]

Suddenly you're a nuking socialist.
Haw, haw...........................haw.

Give it up, pal. Your promotion of mass murder marks you as a throwback.

Says the foreign anti-American, antisemitic advocating terrorist bombings of buses and markets.

[moon]

Says the foreign anti-American, antisemitic advocating terrorist bombings of buses and markets.

More mendacious mutterings from another pompous old warmongering fart.
You've been given the opportunity to support your libel. You've dodged. You're a liar . That's L-I-A-R.

[cancel2 2022]

Nope. The behind the scenes deal was already nearly finished. Japan was done, as Ike and Leahy said. But what do they know compared to you? We could have leveled those cities like we did the others and not used nukes. We owned the skies. We firebombed many. many cities and in some cities, killed more than the Abomb could have. It was a show of strength and a scientific experiment. They spent over a trillion dollars making those 2 bombs and were not going to skip seeing what they could do.
I know you want to believe that stuff, but it just isn't true. It is what the victor says when it is over. They write the history. That is why we say we did not torture, but we did. We say we did not gun down unarmed citizens and children, but we did.

There is nothing wrong with advocating the destruction of Nazi 'Israel' any more than there was about advocating the destruction of Nazi South Africa and its replacement with a non-racist democracy. There is no 'terrorism' in Occupied Palestine - just war crimes committed by the occupying imperialist troops, and heroic Resistance.

You fucking hypocrite, you said one time you wanted to go live in Israel ffs!

[moon]

You fucking hypocrite, you said one time you wanted to go live in Israel ffs!

He meant as an occupier.


Haw, haw............................haw.

[Micawber]

No.

This hasn't been a current event for 70 years.

[Doc Dutch]

More mendacious mutterings from another pompous old warmongering fart.
You've been given the opportunity to support your libel. You've dodged. You're a liar . That's L-I-A-R.

LOL. Thanks for the example of how an anti-American, antisemite posts when triggered. Awesome!!

[Phantasmal]

LOL. Thanks for the example of how an anti-American, antisemite posts when triggered. Awesome!!

I don’t think moon is anti-Semetic, I think he is anti Zionist, as am I and pro Palestinian people, as am I. There is a big difference.

[Phantasmal]

No.

This hasn't been a current event for 70 years.

It’s an old thread, people weren’t as anal about the current event forum

[Doc Dutch]

I don’t think moon is anti-Semetic, I think he is anti Zionist, as am I and pro Palestinian people, as am I. There is a big difference.

Sorry, but the only people I've seen who constantly yammer about "Zionism" are antisemitics. Invariably they are pro-Palestinian and support terrorism as a "just" cause to fight "Zionism". In short, Zionist is just code for "Jew" like some people use "Thug" as code for "African-American"...or worse.

[Doc Dutch]

No.

This hasn't been a current event for 70 years.

It’s an old thread, people weren’t as anal about the current event forum

Agreed on the logic: "Current Event" applies at the time of the OP. Otherwise the vast majority of threads in "Current Events" would have to be moved.

The OP in this case was May 2016. If it was posted this week, it should be moved to "General Politics" or elsewhere.