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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    hang around though because you can be useful in teaching he right wing brain dead here what REAL socialism looks like compared democratic socialism


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    Do you believe in the notion of private property rights?

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    Dear evince:

    So you believe in the constitution!

    Very good. Unless I'm mistaken, President Obama would say the same.

    Yet during the 2013-2014 Detroit bankruptcy, did not his administration collaborate with an un-elected 'emergency manager' and bankruptcy courts to set a precedent for slashing constitutionally protected pension benefits of public-sector retirees? Profession doesn't impress me.

    But evince -- are you not committed to stand by your Democratic President as he guts benefits for hundreds of thousands of retired workers covered by multi-employer pension funds?

    You say you believe in democracy.

    Again, very good.

    Where do you represent the rising militancy and radicalization among workers and youth? Is your vague, non-class, non-Marxian talk of democratic socialism a mask to hide your class position? Does not your 'liberalism' represent a very narrow layer of the upper/middle class which is interested solely in making itself more comfortable under Capitalism?

    Repeatedly, you hand out scurrilous accusations like candy. If you care to address me that way, I’m fine with it. If you had genuine points and/or arguments to make, you would make them. Instead, you post what you do. I certainly differ with I love America, SmarterthanYou and others on many points. But never once have I addressed them, you or anyone else on JPP in a disrespectful manner. Is the openly grotesque coarsening of civic discourse [even by internet standards] truly necessary, evince? I ask for nothing for myself. But I do ask – and I ask respectfully – that you apologize to others who have received your lash. Even if in times past you have been insulted, that offers no justification for you to reply in kind. Not for myself, but for others here, you owe an apology for your behavioral misconduct on this forum. On whatever matter you speak, state your case respectfully and with dignity. To do otherwise represents our respective causes in the worst possible way. Why would we want to do that?

    Respectfully yours,

    IMT

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    the Idea of Unfettered Capitalism is DEAD.



    well fettered Capitalism is a great tool for mankind to harness the good of capitalism and the good of a human centric Democracy.



    The founders gave us all the tools to make his work



    Those tools are unbroken


    they are lying right on the table



    the only reason our Democracy is faltering is that the Republican party has cheated the people in elections for 30 years now.


    that means we have not had REAL Democracy for 30 years now.


    RESTORE the integrity of elections and we will be fine
    "the only reason our Democracy is faltering is that the Republican party has cheated the people in elections for 30 years now".

    let me help you,WE ARE NOT A democracy ,we have never been a stinking slimy democracy,where the mob rules.

    WE ARE HOWEVER A CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC,where the rights of the few are as great as the many.

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