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    Quote Originally Posted by midcan5 View Post
    It was good to see so many hits on this thread, thinking caps on.

    "With difficulty Eisenhower managed to reduce federal support for agricultural commodity prices somewhat. Otherwise he left the welfare state alone. More than that, as promised, he improved it. In 1954 Social Security coverage was broadened and the minimum wage raised from $.75 to $1.00 an hour. In 1955 a new public housing law provided for the construction of 45,000 units. His plan to subsidize private health insurance programs failed. Conservatives on principle opposed it as a step toward socialized medicine; liberals, out of political expediency, opposed it as too meager, half a loaf apparently being worse than none. Eisenhower's effort to obtain federal grants for school construction foundered similarly because Congressman Adam Clayton Powell, Jr., of Harlem added a rider denying funds to racially segregated schools. Though just, the rider was anathema to Southern members, who had pledged to defend racism at all costs. Eisenhower had better luck with public works, notably the St. Lawrence Seaway, blocked for years by competing interest groups, and the Federal Highway Act of 1956 that financed the interstate system." p196 'American High: The Years of Confidence, 1945-1960' by William L. O'Neill
    This began the era of deficit spending. It doesn't matter whether Eisenhower had an "R" next to his name.

    I'm pretty certain Democrats controlled congress during Eisenhower presidency.
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    Quote Originally Posted by midcan5 View Post
    I have been praised often online - cursed too - so thanks for your comment. And also asked to join others sites etc, if you checked my profile you'd realize I am established in this life, and while it would be nice to have more lives, biology is saying no. I wrote an answer below long ago to your question and while obviously most don't change, a few do and that may matter. Otherwise we give into the cynic's world.

    - Long ago a moderator asked me to join their site, the idea did not appeal to me as opinions tend to be exactly what the DI claimed. But the person's argument was not about the obvious give and take, the usual ad hominem, the flames, or vulgar repartee, or broad brush dismissals, the point was that maybe, just maybe, someone would read what you wrote and wonder. It must be obvious to you, if you have given it any thought, that people do not think, they react. Most are robots, a simple perusal of a particular poster's words and you know who they are. But occasionally something will hit you, and then maybe you will think a bit differently. Think of the white supremacist interviewed on NPR. So while most will simply ignore this, maybe, just maybe someone else still has the capacity to wonder. Thanks for asking. -


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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    ...laughing....
    I guess I don't get it, who is it they are laughing at or with or why? Surely you didn't film this as you're just a lonely forum commentator who copied the video to fill in the empty spaces.

    "It is only a slight exaggeration to say that mankind constitutes even now a planetary community of production and consumption. I have now reached the point where I may indicate briefly what to me constitutes the essence of the crisis in our time. It concerns the relationship of the individual to society. The individual has become more conscious than ever of his dependence upon society. But he does not experience this dependence as a positive asset, as an organic tie, as a protective force, but rather as a threat to his natural rights, or even to his economic existence. Moreover, his position in society is such that the egotistical drives of his make-up are constantly being accentuated, while his social drives, which are by nature weaker, progressively deteriorate. All human beings, whatever their position in society, are suffering from this process of deterioration. Unknowingly prisoners of their own egotism, they feel insecure, lonely, and deprived of the naive, simple and unsophisticated enjoyment of life. Man can find meaning in life, short and perilous as it is, only through devoting himself to society. The economic anarchy of capitalist society as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evil." Albert Einstein
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    Quote Originally Posted by midcan5 View Post
    I guess I don't get it,
    Exactly; you seldom actually "get" much of anything. But you do have parroting the idiot narratives and talking points of the left down pat.

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    What is strange is that Midcan spends an inordinate amount of time complaining about being thread banned by me and here there is a nice thread about liberal economics in play in Connecticut and he is nowhere to be found.

    Midcan is nothing more than "intellectual" who reads a lot yet know very little and has few orogibal thoughts. He reminds of that guy in the bar in Good Will Hunting


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    Quote Originally Posted by I Love America View Post
    What is strange is that Midcan spends an inordinate amount of time complaining about being thread banned by me and here there is a nice thread about liberal economics in play in Connecticut and he is nowhere to be found.

    Midcan is nothing more than "intellectual" who reads a lot yet know very little and has few orogibal thoughts. He reminds of that guy in the bar in Good Will Hunting
    Huh? If you censor my access to comment how would that be possible? Are you little fascist who controls access and then wonders why there is no access? Kinda weird. Should I create another account to access? If so you'd ban the account for you'd be faced with the same truths and truth is the enemy of the small mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by midcan5 View Post
    Huh? If you censor my access to comment how would that be possible? Are you little fascist who controls access and then wonders why there is no access? Kinda weird. Should I create another account to access? If so you'd ban the account for you'd be faced with the same truths and truth is the enemy of the small mind.

    How embarrassing for you. Sometimes it is easier to play the martyr than face the truth. Now if you are capable, just comment on the failure of your "tax the rich" economics. Or if you would rather regale us with the list of books you have read, I guess that will be fine


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    Quote Originally Posted by midcan5 View Post
    Huh? If you censor my access to comment how would that be possible? Are you little fascist who controls access and then wonders why there is no access? Kinda weird. Should I create another account to access? If so you'd ban the account for you'd be faced with the same truths and truth is the enemy of the small mind.
    Are you aware that you can start your own thread and even give it the same title, if you have something you wish to add.
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    Quote Originally Posted by USFREEDOM911 View Post
    Are you aware that you can start your own thread and even give it the same title, if you have something you wish to add.
    Yes there is that. There is also the case of him not responding to threads he isn't thread banned on.

    Is it my fault I don't want him Good Will Hunting my threads?

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    Quote Originally Posted by midcan5 View Post
    Huh? If you censor my access to comment how would that be possible? Are you little fascist who controls access and then wonders why there is no access? Kinda weird. Should I create another account to access? If so you'd ban the account for you'd be faced with the same truths and truth is the enemy of the small mind.
    Why are you constantly whining about censor when you have access right now. Funny how the long list of thread banned people on Christie's moronic threads never seem to bother you. Not only are you a hypocrite, but a whiney one at that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Why are you constantly whining about censor when you have access right now. Funny how the long list of thread banned people on Christie's moronic threads never seem to bother you. Not only are you a hypocrite, but a whiney one at that.
    I think when you censor me in most threads I have a right to call you out as weak and insecure, a mini fascist who hasn't the courage or intelligence to debate their position openly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Why are you constantly whining about censor when you have access right now. Funny how the long list of thread banned people on Christie's moronic threads never seem to bother you. Not only are you a hypocrite, but a whiney one at that.
    I was going to bring up that very point. He doesn't seem to mind his fellow lefties utilizing the thread ban feature, he only seems to mind that HE is thread banned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by midcan5 View Post
    I think when you censor me in most threads I have a right to call you out as weak and insecure, a mini fascist who hasn't the courage or intelligence to debate their position openly.

    "Liberals believe individuals should doubt their own truths and consider fairly and open-mindedly the truths of others. This is at the very heart of liberalism. Liberals understand, as Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes once observed, that "time has upset many fighting faiths." Liberals are skeptical of censorship and celebrate free and open debate." Geoffrey R. Stone
    And when you "feel" the need to call someone weak and insecure, for "censoring" you; it speaks more of your feelings of entitlement, your own insecurities, and your low self-esteem.
    If you feel the need to "discuss" the subject matter of someone else's thread and you are thread banned, then JUST START YOUR OWN THREAD AND DISCUSS AWAY.

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    Quote Originally Posted by USFREEDOM911 View Post
    And when you "feel" the need to call someone weak and insecure, for "censoring" you; it speaks more of your feelings of entitlement, your own insecurities, and your low self-esteem.
    If you feel the need to "discuss" the subject matter of someone else's thread and you are thread banned, then JUST START YOUR OWN THREAD AND DISCUSS AWAY.
    Sorry for hurting your sensitive nature, but you must see you confirmed my point. In an open society talking to yourself and blocking others is not very open. You won't stop censoring because you fear knowledge.

    "Liberals believe individuals should doubt their own truths and consider fairly and open-mindedly the truths of others. This is at the very heart of liberalism. Liberals understand, as Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes once observed, that "time has upset many fighting faiths." Liberals are skeptical of censorship and celebrate free and open debate." Geoffrey R. Stone
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    Quote Originally Posted by midcan5 View Post
    Sorry for hurting your sensitive nature, but you must see you confirmed my point. In an open society talking to yourself and blocking others is not very open. You won't stop censoring because you fear knowledge.

    "Liberals believe individuals should doubt their own truths and consider fairly and open-mindedly the truths of others. This is at the very heart of liberalism. Liberals understand, as Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes once observed, that "time has upset many fighting faiths." Liberals are skeptical of censorship and celebrate free and open debate." Geoffrey R. Stone
    UHHHHHH - you kind of like missed the point.

    My "sensitive nature" wasn't hurt, whereas it's obvious that yours were and are.

    And since I speak the truth, you should consider it fairly and open-mindedly.

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