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    Default Why capital gains should be taxed as income.

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    All income should be taxed at the same level.
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    They use mean annual and five year means in trend analysis. Don't tell me I have to explain the difference to you. "

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    Just be honest, all you want is more tax money and you dont care how.
    We are taxed enough already.
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    I'd be down for an across the board 10% tax rate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Granule View Post
    I'd be down for an across the board 10% tax rate.
    Of course, thats keeping present deductions......lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfreak View Post
    All income should be taxed at the same level.
    What's your take on the argument that primary investments, such as one's in businesses, should continue to be taxed at lower rates because they help create jobs while secondary investments should taxed at marginal rates?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    Just be honest, all you want is more tax money and you dont care how.
    We are taxed enough already.
    Honestly If you want to lower earned income tax rate to capital gains tax rate I would be happy. You don't know me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    What's your take on the argument that primary investments, such as one's in businesses, should continue to be taxed at lower rates because they help create jobs while secondary investments should taxed at marginal rates?
    That would be smoke and mirrors. Demand comes from the majority, the majority is poor, so the rich don't create jobs, it is just another excuse to take more of your money, that you fell for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Granule View Post
    I'd be down for an across the board 10% tax rate.
    Of course you would. You are like the scarecrow on the Wizzard of Oz. If you only had a brain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    What's your take on the argument that primary investments, such as one's in businesses, should continue to be taxed at lower rates because they help create jobs while secondary investments should taxed at marginal rates?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    What's your take on the argument that primary investments, such as one's in businesses, should continue to be taxed at lower rates because they help create jobs while secondary investments should taxed at marginal rates?
    I think the money should be taxed at the same rate. Because the only way it is taxed in those primary investments is if the money is taken out in the form of dividends, capital gains or salary. So if they are taking money out... it should be taxed the same.

    That said, it is one of the reasons I oppose the corporate tax code. As long as the money stays in the firm and is being used to build the company, then it should not be taxed year over year. As the money comes out via income, divs or cap gains... THEN it should be taxed... all at the same level.
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    They use mean annual and five year means in trend analysis. Don't tell me I have to explain the difference to you. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rune View Post
    That would be smoke and mirrors. Demand comes from the majority, the majority is poor, so the rich don't create jobs, it is just another excuse to take more of your money, that you fell for.
    Not true... jobs come from people (not just rich) who invest their own capital and take the risk to start a business. Google, Microsoft, Wal Mart, Apple etc... all of them began in such a manner. Without the investments of large investors either directly or through bank loans, hedge/VC funds etc...

    As they have grown, they have continued adding jobs as they have expanded. Granted, as companies mature to the point that future expansion is not economically viable, they will stop adding jobs. Then their new goal is to maintain profitability and productivity.

    Not sure how it is you think private sector job growth occurs... but would be interested in your counter points.
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    They use mean annual and five year means in trend analysis. Don't tell me I have to explain the difference to you. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darla View Post
    Gawd. The treatment of SF as he was the E.F. Hutton of JPP is hilarious. When Superfreak talks; I roll my eyes.
    1) yes, we get it, you are jealous of me
    2) No one is acting in such a manner. He just knows that I am more than willing to share my opinion on economic/tax topics.
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    They use mean annual and five year means in trend analysis. Don't tell me I have to explain the difference to you. "

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