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    Quote Originally Posted by maineman View Post
    can you address the points here instead of running away from them?



    How do you explain that Jim Crow was the law of the land until Congress crammed the CRA down the south's throat... and then, in the course of a few election cycles, congressional representation in the south goes from nearly solid blue to dead red? All those folks down south who used to support Jim Crow, just up and decided to start voting for the party that was most responsible for passing the CRA in the first place? Why would they do that? Is Phillips lying about the southern strategy? What did Mehlman have to apologize for? Simple questions.
    odd.....I remember answering that the last time some idiot raised it....oh wait, that was you wasn't it?......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Your story is a fabrication; a figment of the Liberal mind. Please post something that factually supports the fantasy you describe above and we'll have that debate.

    Particularly the claim that within a few electon cycles after the CRA was passed the South turned Red.

    Put up or please shut the fuck up.
    when you address my questions about Phillips and Mehlman....

    I won't hold my breath.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maineman View Post

    How do you explain that Jim Crow was the law of the land until Congress crammed the CRA down the south's throat... and then, in the course of a few election cycles, congressional representation in the south goes from nearly solid blue to dead red?
    How do you explain otherwise liberal icons opposing the civil rights act, and continuing to remain liberal icons for many years afterwards, and not being replaced by the red wave?: Robert Byrd, Fritz Hollings, Claude Pepper, Al Gore Sr., etc.
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    Default Is the Civil Rights movement what turned the South Republican for 50 years..

    Semen Maineman isn't holding up very well. My guess is it is from years of having his head pushed into the bulkhead while being pounded by his petty officer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taft2016 View Post
    How do you explain otherwise liberal icons opposing the civil rights act, and continuing to remain liberal icons for many years afterwards, and not being replaced by the red wave?: Robert Byrd, Fritz Hollings, Claude Pepper, Al Gore Sr., etc.
    they were clearly the exception to the rule.... they had lots of seniority and congressional clout and were extremely popular locally, despite their party identification. Byrd seemed to renounce his racist past.... Hollings supported many civil rights bills later in his career and was much more friendly to civil rights issues than the republican senator from that state...Claude Pepper changed his stripes early on and was one of the first inductees into the Florida Civil Rights Hall of Fame.... Gore only lasted one more term after the CRA... he was fairly moderate on civil rights issues in the wake of the CRA, he refused to sign the southern manifesto in '56, and was, in fact, one of the key targets of Nixon's southern strategy in 1970. The south is nearly solid red now... and it has been red for quite some time. The people didn't all of a sudden have this epiphany where they all started believing that black people were just as good as white people. And all the black people in the south are voting for the democrats now... so the GOP needs to get nearly ALL those former KKK-types to vote for them in order to accomplish that shift. They are every bit as racist down south now as they were in 1964 - or damn near so - and they all vote republican now. To suggest that, after the CRA, that whites all of a sudden woke up from a dream and got angry at the nasty democrats for making them believe that Jim Crow was a good idea and then switching parties to the totally color blind republican party because of said epiphany is laughable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I Love America View Post
    Semen Maineman isn't holding up very well. My guess is it is from years of having his head pushed into the bulkhead while being pounded by his petty officer
    when I said "jump", petty officers said "how high?" on the way up.

    :lol:

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    Quote Originally Posted by maineman View Post
    when I said "jump", petty officers said "how high?" on the way up.

    :lol:
    Yeah right Semen

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    Quote Originally Posted by maineman View Post
    And all the black people in the south are voting for the democrats now... .
    Your logical gymnastics aside....

    In 1982 George Wallace won the black vote in the Alabama gubernatorial race. That's where the blind racial loyalty got underway.

    The real question becomes; should a party that reaps 90% + of a single race be calling any other party "racist"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by maineman View Post
    when I said "jump", petty officers said "how high?" on the way up.

    :lol:
    Amazing how the right brags about being patriotic and then treats an actual person that served America like shit. The hypocrisy is astonishing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by I Love America View Post
    Yeah right Semen
    ...you do have a fascination with all things gay. methinks you need to get to an all male bathhouse and relieve the inner tensions and inner demons....you will enjoy it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taft2016 View Post
    Your logical gymnastics aside....

    In 1982 George Wallace won the black vote in the Alabama gubernatorial race. That's where the blind racial loyalty got underway.

    The real question becomes; should a party that reaps 90% + of a single race be calling any other party "racist"?
    logical gymnastics? debate them instead of running away from them, pussy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maineman View Post
    when you address my questions about Phillips and Mehlman....

    I won't hold my breath.
    Given the obvious oxygen deprived nature of Truth Detectors time in the womb, his mother must have been quite efficient at holding her breath....

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    Quote Originally Posted by I Love America View Post
    Yeah right Semen
    did you ever serve, young fella?

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    Quote Originally Posted by maineman View Post
    logical gymnastics? debate them instead of running away from them, pussy.
    ....and once again facts have a liberal bias....

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    Quote Originally Posted by maineman View Post
    logical gymnastics? debate them instead of running away from them, pussy.
    So what would you like to debate? The transparently BS notion of "changing stripes?"

    "Changing stripes" had nothing to do with the race issue and renouncing past positions on it. It had to do with embracing the expansion of government, the welfare state, and during the Cold War, rolling over on one's back for the Soviet Union.

    That's what "changing stripes" meant. Changing stripes in that manner secured one the support of the national liberal media.

    If David Duke had changed his stripes in that manner and remained a registered Democrat, he would have gone on to the US Senate and governor's mansion in Baton Rouge. Instead, he renounced his racist past and affiliations *WITHOUT* embracing big government and the welfare state, and became a Republican.

    See? Had nothing to whatsoever to do with "Changing Stripes" on the race issue.
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