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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    Read the contract and get back to me. FrontPage just omitted a lot of detail in order to spread lies, particularly details 4, 5 and 6. How much do you think it costs to provide 3G services globally?

    Contract Award Number: SAQMMA12D0131
    Synopsis:
    Added: Jun 07, 2012 4:44 pm


    The US Department of State intends to award an indefinite-delivery indefinite-quantity commercial items contract on or about June 19, 2012, on a sole source basis to Amazon Digital Services, Inc. of Seattle WA for the commercial supplies and services described below. The anticipated value is $16,500,000 over the life of the contract, which shall be one base year plus 4 option years. See attached Sole Source Justification documented and approved in accordance with FAR 6.302-1.

    Notwithstanding the Sole Source Justification attached and in accordance with FAR 5.207(16)(iii), all responsible sources may submit a capability statement, proposal, or quotation which shall be considered by the agency.

    The solicitation will not be made available through the GPE, but may be obtained by e-mail request to the contracting officer identified in this Synopsis.

    One or more of the items under this acquisition is subject to World Trade Organization Government Procurement Agreement and Free Trade Agreement. 4. The Contractor shall provide 3G services globally. The Contractor is responsible for all costs associated with 3G services globally (i.e., downloading content and access to the Internet Browser).

    5. The Contractor shall provide a public-facing, online bookstore of third-party content.

    6. The Contractor shall provide an exclusive, private online document repository from which the Department of State may distribute USG public domain material accesible via 3G or Wi-Fi from the locations listed in Attachment A.
    My older Kindle costs me nothing to contact Amazon and buy a book....totally free...3G service
    my new Kindle uses my Wi-Fi at home and its totally free on the road at hotels, etc.....
    Private On-line repository for any and every book I buy is also free provided by Amazon, or better yet, just store the books on the Kindle, it holds hundreds, if not thousands

    All in all, you're full of crap and grasping at straws.......you talk about 3G services and in your post it specifically states that The Contractor is responsible for all costs associated with 3G services globally....to me that means the 16.5 million paid to Amaxon has nothing to do with providing global service.......
    Put blame where it belongs
    ATF decided it could not regulate bump stocks during the Obama administration.
    It that time," the NRA wrote in a statement. "The NRA believes that devices designed to allow semiautomatic rifles to function like fully-automatic rifles should be subject to additional regulations."
    The ATF and Obama admin. ignored the NRA recommendations.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Big money View Post
    Is it true that the State Department (Hillary Clinton, proprietor) denied the guards firearms?
    Untrue. Security requests focused on Tripoli.

    "...embassy security officers warned their superiors at the State Department of a worsening threat from Islamic extremists, and requested that the teams of military personnel and State Department security guards who were already on duty be kept in service.

    The requests were denied, but they were largely focused on extending the tours of security guards at the American Embassy in Tripoli — not at the diplomatic compound in Benghazi, 400 miles away. And State Department officials testified this week during a hearing by the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee that extending the tour of additional guards — a 16-member military security team — through mid-September would not have changed the bloody outcome because they were based in Tripoli, not Benghazi."

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/13/wo...n-tripoli.html


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    Quote Originally Posted by NOVA View Post
    My older Kindle costs me nothing to contact Amazon and buy a book....totally free...3G service
    my new Kindle uses my Wi-Fi at home and its totally free on the road at hotels, etc.....
    Private On-line repository for any and every book I buy is also free provided by Amazon, or better yet, just store the books on the Kindle, it holds hundreds, if not thousands

    All in all, you're full of crap and grasping at straws.......you talk about 3G services and in your post it specifically states that The Contractor is responsible for all costs associated with 3G services globally....to me that means the 16.5 million paid to Amaxon has nothing to do with providing global service.......
    Apparently you don't know how to read a contract. They are buying equipment and services. Services don't come free.


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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    Untrue. Security requests focused on Tripoli.
    Did they?

    Morgan Jones, the pseudonym used by the security man hired to train guards at the embassy, tells his story for the first time...

    He calls himself Morgan Jones, a pseudonym to protect his safety. Jones says he was annoyed that the State Department wouldn't allow his guards to carry guns. As the attack began last year, on Sept. 11, one of the guards called Jones who was living nearby.

    Morgan Jones: I could hear gunshots. And I-- and he said, "There's-- there's men coming into the mission."

    His first thought was about his American friends pinned down inside the compound, and he couldn't believe it when one of the State Department agents answered his phone.

    Morgan Jones: I said, "What's goin' on?" He said-- "We're gettin' attacked." And I said, "How many?" And he said, "They're all over the compound." And-- felt shocked, I didn't know what to say. And-- I said, "Well, just keep fightin'. I'm on my way."

    Morgan's guards -- unarmed and terrified -- were surrounded by gunmen, but still sounded the alarm.


    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18560_162-57609235/first-western-eyewitness-to-benghazi-terror-attack/

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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    Apparently you don't know how to read a contract. They are buying equipment and services. Services don't come free.

    This is getting ridiculous....

    how about a few thousand from each of these stupid expenditures...if money was an issue for Benghazi security ....according to
    Charlene Lamb, testifying under oath, there was NO money issues with paying for more security for Benghazi ....so this bullshit about Amazon is a moot point....the fact of the matter is, Hillary lied when she tried to put this shit out for her excuse.

    7.9 billion dollars for Obama’s Global Health Initiative.

    1 billion for global climate change.

    2.2 billion to strengthen democratic institutions in Pakistan.

    And of course… Mosque renovations.

    In 2011 the State Department provided funds to restore the 15th century Gobarau Minaret in Katsina State in Nigeria’s predominantly Muslim north, an area which has become a virtual killing field for Christians at the hands of Muslim militants, led by the al-Qaeda-linked terror group Boko Haram.

    And $4.5 million for Art in Embassies

    The New York Times reported in 2009 that Art in Embassies spends about $4.5 million a year for permanent art acquisitions; chief curator Virginia Shore said at the time that artists and dealers support the program via favorable pricing; for the embassy in Beijing, an outlay of $800,000 yielded works with an appraised value of $30 million.

    How much Benghazi security would 800,000 dollars have bought? If Hillary Clinton had stopped buying paintings, maybe four Americans would still be alive today.
    Put blame where it belongs
    ATF decided it could not regulate bump stocks during the Obama administration.
    It that time," the NRA wrote in a statement. "The NRA believes that devices designed to allow semiautomatic rifles to function like fully-automatic rifles should be subject to additional regulations."
    The ATF and Obama admin. ignored the NRA recommendations.


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    Not to mention the $9 billion the government lost on the GM bailout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NOVA View Post
    This is getting ridiculous....

    how about a few thousand from each of these stupid expenditures...if money was an issue for Benghazi security ....according to
    Charlene Lamb, testifying under oath, there was NO money issues with paying for more security for Benghazi ....so this bullshit about Amazon is a moot point....the fact of the matter is, Hillary lied when she tried to put this shit out for her excuse.

    7.9 billion dollars for Obama’s Global Health Initiative.

    1 billion for global climate change.

    2.2 billion to strengthen democratic institutions in Pakistan.
    All this came from a letter the CFR sent to Paul Ryan about estimated expenses in the budget. Can you prove that the money was actually spent on these things? http://www.foreignpolicy.com/files/f...s/HCFA2012.pdf

    And of course… Mosque renovations.

    In 2011 the State Department provided funds to restore the 15th century Gobarau Minaret in Katsina State in Nigeria’s predominantly Muslim north, an area which has become a virtual killing field for Christians at the hands of Muslim militants, led by the al-Qaeda-linked terror group Boko Haram.
    No good link for this, just the same couple of sentences making the rounds of different RW websites.

    And $4.5 million for Art in Embassies

    The New York Times reported in 2009 that Art in Embassies spends about $4.5 million a year for permanent art acquisitions; chief curator Virginia Shore said at the time that artists and dealers support the program via favorable pricing; for the embassy in Beijing, an outlay of $800,000 yielded works with an appraised value of $30 million.

    How much Benghazi security would 800,000 dollars have bought? If Hillary Clinton had stopped buying paintings, maybe four Americans would still be alive today.
    Art in Embassies was established 50 years ago and you're trying to make it a Hillary issue? Lame even for you.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_in_Embassies_Program


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    Failing to save 4 Americans is a Hillary issue, and failing to bring the killers to justice is an Obama issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    Services don't come free.
    yes they do.....


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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    So much righteous indignation here. Cons must have been saving it up from all the previous embassy attacks they never mention.

    Seven U.S. Embassies And Consulates Were Attacked Under George W. Bush

    2002: U.S. Consulate In Karachi, Pakistan, Attacked; 10 Killed, 51 Injured.

    2004: U.S. Embassy Bombed In Uzbekistan.

    2004: Gunmen Stormed U.S. Consulate In Saudi Arabia.

    2006: Armed Men Attacked U.S. Embassy In Syria.

    2007: Grenade Launched Into U.S. Embassy In Athens.

    2008: Rioters Set Fire To U.S. Embassy In Serbia.

    2008: Ten People Killed In Bombings At U.S. Embassy In Yemen.
    Did they ask for help and help was denied? Did Bush make up a story about a video, a story that was a lie from the beginning? That Obama ran with for a week or more? No. Not comparable in any way shape or form.

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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    All this came from a letter the CFR sent to Paul Ryan about estimated expenses in the budget. Can you prove that the money was actually spent on these things? http://www.foreignpolicy.com/files/f...s/HCFA2012.pdf

    Can you prove it wasn't....

    No good link for this, just the same couple of sentences making the rounds of different RW websites.

    Do you own research...it was part of the budget...funny you should complain about RW websites and give me crap from 'mediamatters' .....

    Art in Embassies was established 50 years ago and you're trying to make it a Hillary issue? Lame even for you.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_in_Embassies_Program
    Please sweetie....you're not trying to tell the folks that THIS has something to do with 50 years ago are you.
    the fact is, they found 4.5 million for art in 2009 and Hilliary says there wasn't enough money for a few Marines for Benghazi ?....
    What the hell....you gotta pay those Marines no matter where the hell they eat or sleep....whether its Norfolk, Va. or Benghazi....
    You're tenacious as all hell but it only exposes your extreme partisanship and gullibility....
    Put blame where it belongs
    ATF decided it could not regulate bump stocks during the Obama administration.
    It that time," the NRA wrote in a statement. "The NRA believes that devices designed to allow semiautomatic rifles to function like fully-automatic rifles should be subject to additional regulations."
    The ATF and Obama admin. ignored the NRA recommendations.


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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    So much righteous indignation here. Cons must have been saving it up from all the previous embassy attacks they never mention.

    Seven U.S. Embassies And Consulates Were Attacked Under George W. Bush

    2002: U.S. Consulate In Karachi, Pakistan, Attacked; 10 Killed, 51 Injured.

    2004: U.S. Embassy Bombed In Uzbekistan.

    2004: Gunmen Stormed U.S. Consulate In Saudi Arabia.

    2006: Armed Men Attacked U.S. Embassy In Syria.

    2007: Grenade Launched Into U.S. Embassy In Athens.

    2008: Rioters Set Fire To U.S. Embassy In Serbia.

    2008: Ten People Killed In Bombings At U.S. Embassy In Yemen.

    http://mediamatters.org/research/201...-bash-o/189890
    That's right, keep blaming Bush!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big money View Post
    He was wrong, and he paid with his life, and the lives of 3 others. His superiors failed to act in time.
    So when over 3000 Americans were killed in Iraq, was that Bush's fault? Their superiors failed to send help!
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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    A shout-out to Howey for this.

    Conservatives are out in force this morning claiming Lara Logan's segment on CBS' 60 Minutes is evidence their yearlong effort to convert the tragedy in Benghazi into a political scandal was warranted. Far from it -- it is the latest Benghazi Hoax.

    From watching the 60 Minutes segment, you would be led to believe there is a "lingering question" involving the U.S. military's response to the September 11, 2012, terrorist attack on U.S. diplomatic facilities in Benghazi, Libya. The report did not let viewers know that an anti-terrorism team was deployed from Spain, along with Special Forces based in the United States and Croatia. None of these forces even made it to Libya until 11 hours after our diplomatic and CIA teams had been evacuated.

    Furthermore, the belief that the military did not do everything it could to rescue those in Benghazi has been contradicted by former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Admiral Mike Mullen, current Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Martin Dempsey, and former Secretaries of Defense Leon Panetta and Robert Gates.

    Claims that the military didn't do everything it could to help those in Benghazi go hand-in-hand with the conspiracy that a "stand down" order was issued to a Special Forces team in Tripoli. Even congressional Republicans have debunked this claim:

    "Contrary to news reports, Gibson was not ordered to 'stand down' by higher command authorities in response to his understandable desire to lead a group of three other special forces soldiers to Benghazi."

    While those interviewed during the 60 Minutes report decried the lack of funding for embassy security, the program failed to note:

    For fiscal 2013, the GOP-controlled House proposed spending $1.934 billion for the State Department's Worldwide Security Protection program -- well below the $2.15 billion requested by the Obama administration. House Republicans cut the administration's request for embassy security funding by $128 million in fiscal 2011 and $331 million in fiscal 2012.

    The 60 Minutes piece follows the same pattern as every other element of The Benghazi Hoax we've witnessed for the past 13 months. Supposedly new revelations promoted by different media outlets are simply worn-over versions of the same hoaxes debunked months before; context that would provide critical information to viewers or readers is missing; and the right-wing media exaggerate the new allegations to something unrecognizable from the original report.

    Nothing in the 60 Minutes report implicated Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton in any wrongdoing leading up to the attack in Benghazi -- in fact their names were never mentioned. But conservatives are already on the attack against the president and former secretary of state. Evidence, context, and truth don't matter as long as tragedy can be converted into political scandal.

    Already this morning, cheered on by Fox News, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) is using the CBS report as the pretext for blocking every Obama appointment before the United States Senate until "the survivors [of Benghazi] are being made available to the Congress" -- never mind that they have already answered questions from numerous investigators and that the Senate has access to those interviews.

    Once again, rather than do the country's business, conservatives, led by their media, would rather halt the work of government in an attempt to score political points with their base.

    http://mediamatters.org/blog/2013/10...zi-hoax/196627
    Youn really are a dim bulb Obama butt kisser.

    Yeah; CBS is a Conservative news source and used 60 minutes to further the despicable Conservative effort to actually find the truth.

    You really THAT repugnantly stupid.
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