The Insanity of Glenn Beck

**Cypress** · 09-18-2007, 08:36 AM

CNN rightwing pundit show last night: Glenn Beck.

He said (paraphrasing) in relation to alan greenspans comments about the Iraq war and oil: "So WHAT if the iraq war was about oil. Shouldn't it be? This country's economy depends on cheap plentiful oil."

The man has no shame.

**Onceler** · 09-18-2007, 08:40 AM

Originally Posted by Cypress

CNN rightwing pundit show last night: Glenn Beck.

He said (paraphrasing) in relation to alan greenspans comments about the Iraq war and oil: "So WHAT if the iraq war was about oil. Shouldn't it be? This country's economy depends on cheap plentiful oil."

The man has no shame.

Well, at least there is some honesty, there. Haven't heard that on the right since James Baker in the 1st Gulf War.

Beats Neil Cavuto taking Alan Greenspan to task for even suggesting such a thing, and equating it with a 'grassy knoll' theory that only fringies like MoveOn believe...

**Cypress** · 09-18-2007, 08:43 AM

Lorax, it reminds me of when the WMD went missing, and I heard righwing talk radio dudes say "So What if there's no WMD? What about the mass graves and torture chambers?"

For some strange reason, it all just makes me believe these war mongers simply wanted a war to beat up and kick ass on some petty little dictator thug. The reasons for the war didn't really matter. Just the act of war and kicking ass, seems to be the motivation.

**Jarod** · 09-18-2007, 08:44 AM

The guy is a whack... Ive been listening to his radio show for years.

**Onceler** · 09-18-2007, 08:52 AM

"For some strange reason, it all just makes me believe these war mongers simply wanted a war to beat up and kick ass on some petty little dictator thug. The reasons for the war didn't really matter. Just the act of war and kicking ass, seems to be the motivation."

There is definitely truth to this. We were all angry after 9/11, but there is a different psychology at work with the anger of a fair portion of America. There is a testosterone element involved, to be sure. I knew when Bush said (paraphrasing) "you won't see a lot of this war on TV", that it wouldn't fly with this element. They needed "shock & awe" to ease their rage over 9/11, and it didn't matter who was the recipient.

It's the same psychology behind a nutty football fan whose team loses a big game, so he picks a relatively non-threatening target at the bar & beats the snot out of him...

**Cancel7** · 09-18-2007, 08:55 AM

Originally Posted by Onceler

"For some strange reason, it all just makes me believe these war mongers simply wanted a war to beat up and kick ass on some petty little dictator thug. The reasons for the war didn't really matter. Just the act of war and kicking ass, seems to be the motivation."

There is definitely truth to this. We were all angry after 9/11, but there is a different psychology at work with the anger of a fair portion of America. There is a testosterone element involved, to be sure. I knew when Bush said (paraphrasing) "you won't see a lot of this war on TV", that it wouldn't fly with this element. They needed "shock & awe" to ease their rage over 9/11, and it didn't matter who was the recipient.

It's the same psychology behind a nutty football fan whose team loses a big game, so he picks a relatively non-threatening target at the bar & beats the snot out of him...

Do you think that the kind of person you are describing here, developed this rage on 9/12? I think that you are right, and this is some interesting stuff, but I really wonder if these kinds of people aren't always enraged. You know, about something. Maybe just at life. In order for that rage to last this long, you really have to wonder.

**Onceler** · 09-18-2007, 09:02 AM

Originally Posted by Darla

Do you think that the kind of person you are describing here, developed this rage on 9/12? I think that you are right, and this is some interesting stuff, but I really wonder if these kinds of people aren't always enraged. You know, about something. Maybe just at life. In order for that rage to last this long, you really have to wonder.

I saw it in my Dad, actually, who is not generally an angry man. Something really weird happened to him after 9/11 - there was some very uncharacteristic behavior, and a lot of mis-placed anger. Maybe there was something seething below the surface for years prior, but I think it was a genuine affront to the fact that such an attack could be carried out against America, who he had previously thought was invincible.

I also saw it to a lesser degree among some of his friends, and among the older generation in general. It's probably much more complex than my pop psychology could break down, but I think it has a lot to do with the fact that his generation lived through Pearl Harbor, and saw themselves collectively as building a strong America that could never be attacked like that again. 9/11 shattered a feeling of safety & power that they had built for decades...

**Cancel7** · 09-18-2007, 09:04 AM

Originally Posted by Onceler

I saw it in my Dad, actually, who is not generally an angry man. Something really weird happened to him after 9/11 - there was some very uncharacteristic behavior, and a lot of mis-placed anger. Maybe there was something seething below the surface for years prior, but I think it was a genuine affront to the fact that such an attack could be carried out against America, who he had previously thought was invincible.

I also saw it to a lesser degree among some of his friends, and among the older generation in general. It's probably much more complex than my pop psychology could break down, but I think it has a lot to do with the fact that his generation lived through Pearl Harbor, and saw themselves collectively as building a strong America that could never be attacked like that again. 9/11 shattered a feeling of safety & power that they had built for decades...

Ok...that is interesting.

***Damocles*** · 09-18-2007, 09:09 AM

Originally Posted by Jarod

The guy is a whack... Ive been listening to his radio show for years.

I would agree with this, now that I know who he actually is. Cypress used to call me this guy?

**Cancel7** · 09-18-2007, 09:13 AM

Originally Posted by Damocles

I would agree with this, now that I know who he actually is. Cypress used to call me this guy?

Oh that's nothing. You should see what he calls you off board.

Of course, you still get off easier than SF does.

***Damocles*** · 09-18-2007, 09:13 AM

Originally Posted by Darla

Oh that's nothing. You should see what he calls you off board.

Of course, you still get off easier than SF does.

M'eh.

I'm too sexy to care.

**uscitizen** · 09-18-2007, 09:22 AM

Originally Posted by Cypress

CNN rightwing pundit show last night: Glenn Beck.

He said (paraphrasing) in relation to alan greenspans comments about the Iraq war and oil: "So WHAT if the iraq war was about oil. Shouldn't it be? This country's economy depends on cheap plentiful oil."

The man has no shame.

Umm Truth is truth.
The shame belongs on America for what we have done in the pursuit of oil.

**uscitizen** · 09-18-2007, 09:25 AM

Originally Posted by Onceler

I saw it in my Dad, actually, who is not generally an angry man. Something really weird happened to him after 9/11 - there was some very uncharacteristic behavior, and a lot of mis-placed anger. Maybe there was something seething below the surface for years prior, but I think it was a genuine affront to the fact that such an attack could be carried out against America, who he had previously thought was invincible.

I also saw it to a lesser degree among some of his friends, and among the older generation in general. It's probably much more complex than my pop psychology could break down, but I think it has a lot to do with the fact that his generation lived through Pearl Harbor, and saw themselves collectively as building a strong America that could never be attacked like that again. 9/11 shattered a feeling of safety & power that they had built for decades...

Yeah many peoples sence of safety was shaken badly.
Kind of like the unsinkable titanic sinking....
And the older you are the less you can tolerate change.

**KingRaw!** · 07-04-2008, 09:15 PM

Glenn Beck = radical far-right facist with a smug attitude

**blackascoal** · 07-05-2008, 05:38 AM

Originally Posted by Onceler

"For some strange reason, it all just makes me believe these war mongers simply wanted a war to beat up and kick ass on some petty little dictator thug. The reasons for the war didn't really matter. Just the act of war and kicking ass, seems to be the motivation."

There is definitely truth to this. We were all angry after 9/11, but there is a different psychology at work with the anger of a fair portion of America. There is a testosterone element involved, to be sure. I knew when Bush said (paraphrasing) "you won't see a lot of this war on TV", that it wouldn't fly with this element. They needed "shock & awe" to ease their rage over 9/11, and it didn't matter who was the recipient.

It's the same psychology behind a nutty football fan whose team loses a big game, so he picks a relatively non-threatening target at the bar & beats the snot out of him...

9/11 has become the catch-all rationale for anything dumb we might do .. and it's now the supposed buzzword to release the cowboy in us all.

In truth, 9/11 proved how easily Americans are manipulated. All the evidence of that manipulation anyone would ever need is absolutely everywhere to be found. You almost have to be an American to be too blind to see it.

You almost have to be an American not to see its intent and purpose .. because we've done it before.

This was far from a football team that picked a weak opponent to beat up on to revenge a loss .. this is more like invading a small country to control their resources .. and inventing a rationale to do it.

We've done it before .. many times ..

... but it seems that you have to be an American not to know that history.