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    The internationalist fascists need to employee nationalism in Iraq, to create a new puppet state in which america control the activities. We will reward whichever armed faction realizes this first and acts on it. WHoever it is will then be given the title of "The Good muslims". It will be a sunni group. Our "big ally" in the region is one of the most intolerant and totalitarian, Saudi Arabia. This will end up like that.

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    Iraq is three nations under one state. It is not a nationstate.
    "Do not think that I came to bring peace... I did not come to bring peace, but a sword." - Matthew 10:34

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    I just love the idea of invoking nationalism to fight fascism. Fighting fire with fire isn't dumb enough?
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    what we need is a strongman. someone who thru terror and wealth can keep the country together so the oil can flow. Opps, we killed him didn't we, oh never mind.

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    Just split the damned thing three ways. Call someone in Iraq an "Iraqi" and they'll just give you a confused glare.

    It's like trying to unite the United States and Mexico. The national barriers are too strong to be overcome overnight, and putting them under one state will naturally lead to resentment over which nation has the most power in the government. Hopefully one day they'll get over their petty squablings but I see no reason to put it under trial by fire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Watermark View Post
    Just split the damned thing three ways. Call someone in Iraq an "Iraqi" and they'll just give you a confused glare.

    It's like trying to unite the United States and Mexico. The national barriers are too strong to be overcome overnight, and putting them under one state will naturally lead to resentment over which nation has the most power in the government. Hopefully one day they'll get over their petty squablings but I see no reason to put it under trial by fire.
    That's called 'balkanization'. Not allowed. The trend must always be towards creating larger geographic units of identity, not smaller.

    Though what you're saying is completely rational. It is not allowed. If people are not killing each other, the new world order handlers aren't doing their jobs correctly, as they see it.

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    I've often thought it might be quite good fun to put LSD into Iraqi watersources and see what happens, see if it stops the violence.

    You'd need a lot of LSD though...
    Sometimes people don't want to hear the truth because they don't want their illusions destroyed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OrnotBitwise View Post
    I just love the idea of invoking nationalism to fight fascism. Fighting fire with fire isn't dumb enough?
    It's invoking nationalism to fight religious and tribal loyalty. THe NWO needs to use whichever tactic is required. Saddam would have been fine, but he was too secular for the theocrats in charge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnyOldIron View Post
    I've often thought it might be quite good fun to put LSD into Iraqi watersources and see what happens, see if it stops the violence.

    You'd need a lot of LSD though...
    Maybe that wshould be done at the Republican convention instead?

    Who knows they may come up with a platform that actually gets closer to what the American public wants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Watermark View Post
    Just split the damned thing three ways. Call someone in Iraq an "Iraqi" and they'll just give you a confused glare.

    It's like trying to unite the United States and Mexico. The national barriers are too strong to be overcome overnight, and putting them under one state will naturally lead to resentment over which nation has the most power in the government. Hopefully one day they'll get over their petty squablings but I see no reason to put it under trial by fire.
    Their is no innate value to combining nations together. It can be good or bad depending upon the effects of the merger upon individuals. and which individuals one happens to care about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    The internationalist fascists need to employee nationalism in Iraq, to create a new puppet state in which america control the activities. We will reward whichever armed faction realizes this first and acts on it. WHoever it is will then be given the title of "The Good muslims". It will be a sunni group. Our "big ally" in the region is one of the most intolerant and totalitarian, Saudi Arabia. This will end up like that.
    Umm that is the Bush idea of Iraqi democracy Asshat. It is not working though.
    Bush doubled the debt from 5 trillion to 10 trillion.
    Proving tax cuts work!

    Bush asked for and signed for the TARP money.
    The Republican senate leader backed Bush on this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uscitizen View Post
    Umm that is the Bush idea of Iraqi democracy Asshat. It is not working though.

    It depends on what you mean by 'working'.

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    I expect that the bush definition is that we are in control and have oil coming out thru US oil companies.
    Bush doubled the debt from 5 trillion to 10 trillion.
    Proving tax cuts work!

    Bush asked for and signed for the TARP money.
    The Republican senate leader backed Bush on this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uscitizen View Post
    I expect that the bush definition is that we are in control and have oil coming out thru US oil companies.
    So it's working.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    So it's working.
    Umm negotions on their oil law sort of fell apart.
    And exports are well below those of pre invasion.


    Nope it is not working even for Bushco.
    And now his mercenaries aka future oil security types are being kicked out.
    Bush doubled the debt from 5 trillion to 10 trillion.
    Proving tax cuts work!

    Bush asked for and signed for the TARP money.
    The Republican senate leader backed Bush on this.

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