Free speech dying.....

[NOVA]

When even one American, who has done nothing wrong, is forced by fear to shut his
mind and close his mouth, then all Americans are in peril. === Harry Truman


The further a society drifts from the truth, the more they will hate those that speak it.- George Orwell

[Phantasmal]

When even one American, who has done nothing wrong, is forced by fear to shut his
mind and close his mouth, then all Americans are in peril. === Harry Truman


The further a society drifts from the truth, the more they will hate those that speak it.- George Orwell

Isn't it ironic, you advocating unlimited free speech, yet dismissing me.

[NOVA]

Isn't it ironic, you advocating unlimited free speech, yet dismissing me.

Me ?...advocating unlimited free speech ?....damn...now where did I say that....? Or are you talking about Harry Truman or George Orwell ?

Never mind... just rhetorical questions....I don't care what your opinion is.

[Phantasmal]

Me ?...advocating unlimited free speech ?....damn...now where did I say that....? Or are you talking about Harry Truman or George Orwell ?

Never mind... just rhetorical questions....I don't care what your opinion is.

Okay, if you aren't advocating unlimited free speech, what is the point of your posts?

[Rune]

Okay, if you aren't advocating unlimited free speech, what is the point of your posts?

Nothing. Idiots don't need a point when they blabber.

[christiefan915]

There was no freedom of speech then, at least not to criticize religion or government.

It is why freedom to criticize the government was incorporated into our Constitution. I do not believe it means all forms of speech, otherwise, there would be no laws controlling pornography, slander or libel.

I know I keep bringing this up but you remember ten years ago when we criticized bush for Iraq, righties were telling us we should be tried for treason?

Free speech indeed.

[tekkychick]

He is allowed free speech, there are just consequences for the things you say.

Exactly. If you aren't willing to accept the consequences, don't say it.

[tekkychick]

Exactly. If you aren't willing to accept the consequences, don't say it.

This guy isn't being imprisoned. He's free to say it. His employer is free to say his views don't match with theirs and to fire him.

Happens to union organizers, right?

[BRUTALITOPS]

There was no freedom of speech then, at least not to criticize religion or government.

Yes there was, there was just consequences for the things they said

[NOVA]

This guy isn't being imprisoned. He's free to say it. His employer is free to say his views don't match with theirs and to fire him.

Happens to union organizers, right?

This has nothing to do with someone losing his job....he didn't lose his job.

When even one American, who has done nothing wrong, is forced by fear to shut his
mind and close his mouth, then all Americans are in peril. === Harry Truman

[Cancel 2020.1]

It's not a full day unless bravo has a thread that is a complete and utter FAIL.

This has nothing to do w/ "free speech" bravs.

[NOVA]

Lets try another example..

"The reports on the NDA are accurate. We're getting people who call," Wolf said Monday during an event marking the launch of the Citizens' Commission on Benghazi, a panel of former military and intelligence officials who are investigating unanswered questions surrounding the Benghazi incident.

Wolf's office first received the anonymous call earlier in the summer, soon after CNN and Fox News reported on the NDAs and polygraph tests.

The caller told Wolf's staff that an unnamed CIA employee has been suspended after refusing to sign a Benghazi-related NDA.

"My office received a call from a man saying that he knew a CIA employee who has retained legal counsel because he has refused to sign an additional NDA regarding the Sept. 11, 2012, events in Benghazi," Wolf said in Sept. 9 remarks at a panel discussion hosted by Judicial Watch.

"I called the law firm and spoke with CIA employee's attorney who confirmed that her client is having an issue with the agency and the firm is trying to address it," Wolf said. "Based on my past experiences with the CIA, which is headquartered in my congressional district, I am not at all confident that these efforts will be successful."

The NDA agreements are meant to instill fear in employees and stop them from speaking "to the media or Congress," Wolf said on Monday.
-- http://freedomoutpost.com/2013/09/co...azi-suspended/

When even one American, who has done nothing wrong, is forced by fear to shut his
mind and close his mouth, then all Americans are in peril. === Harry Truman

[Phantasmal]

Yes there was, there was just consequences for the things they said

Lol, okay

[sedan]

When even one American, who has done nothing wrong, is forced by fear to shut his
mind and close his mouth, then all Americans are in peril. === Harry Truman

I've just read your lousy review of Margaret's concert ...

Some day I hope to meet you. When that happens you'll need a new nose, a lot of beefsteak for black eyes, and perhaps a supporter below! === Harry Truman

[OnearmSword]

He is allowed free speech, there are just consequences for the things you say.

Yes consequences. Where have I read that before? I remember the 20 million Stalin murdered and 45 million Mao murdered.. Yes, those consequences ..

http://www.ibtimes.com/how-many-peop...n-kill-1111789
In February 1989, two years before the fall of the Soviet Union, a research paper by Georgian historian Roy Aleksandrovich Medvedev published in the weekly tabloid Argumenti i Fakti estimated that the death toll directly attributable to Stalin’s rule amounted to some 20 million lives (on top of the estimated 20 million Soviet troops and civilians who perished in the Second World War), for a total tally of 40 million.

''It's important that they published it, although the numbers themselves are horrible,'' Medvedev told the New York Times at the time.

''Those numbers include my father.''

Medevedev's grim bookkeeping included the following tragic episodes: 1 million imprisoned or exiled between 1927 to 1929; 9 to 11 million peasants forced off their lands and another 2 to 3 million peasants arrested or exiled in the mass collectivization program; 6 to 7 million killed by an artificial famine in 1932-1934; 1 million exiled from Moscow and Leningrad in 1935; 1 million executed during the ''Great Terror'' of 1937-1938; 4 to 6 million dispatched to forced labor camps; 10 to 12 million people forcibly relocated during World War II; and at least 1 million arrested for various “political crimes” from 1946 to 1953.

Although not everyone who was swept up in the aforementioned events died from unnatural causes, Medvedev’s 20 million non-combatant deaths estimate is likely a conservative guess.

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-en...s-2081630.html Mr Dikötter, who has been studying Chinese rural history from 1958 to 1962, when the nation was facing a famine, compared the systematic torture, brutality, starvation and killing of Chinese peasants to the Second World War in its magnitude. At least 45 million people were worked, starved or beaten to death in China over these four years; the worldwide death toll of the Second World War was 55 million.

Mr Dikötter is the only author to have delved into the Chinese archives since they were reopened four years ago. He argued that this devastating period of history – which has until now remained hidden – has international resonance. "It ranks alongside the gulags and the Holocaust as one of the three greatest events of the 20th century.... It was like [the Cambodian communist dictator] Pol Pot's genocide multiplied 20 times over," he said.