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Obama's speech yesterday felt like deja vu - it reminded me so much of some of the rationales Bush was putting out there for Iraq.
I almost expected him to say that Assad was the guy who "went after his dad..."
I have to sign off now. Shrubbie, I am hugely disappointed. If I knew you in person I would probably be hurt. I don't know what to say. You've been tricked. And as a result, your efforts will contribute to human beings dying. Think about that.
What does this have to do with Republicans; liberals have no shame when it comes to ignorance and hypocrisy.
Dresden, Hamburg and Tokyo were the result of despotic dictators trying to take over the world you putz. AmeriKa was the good guy trying to free Europe from a despotic megalomaniac if you don't remember.
I'm amused when naive Liberals in their child like views of the world rant about peace; what despot, tyrant, dictator or terrorist ever gave a shit about peace. Whining about AmeriKas war mongering is about as moronic as complaining about the mess you made shitting your liberal pants trying to have a coherent thought.
"When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."
A lie doesn't become the truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good just because it is accepted by a majority.
Author: Booker T. Washington
Rune (09-11-2013)
"It [the draft] is duty rather than slavery. I part with the author on the caviler idea that individual freedom (whatever that may be to the person) leads to nirvana, anyone older that 12 knows that is BS."
-(Midcan5)
"Allow me to masturbate my patriotism furiously and publicly at this opportunity."
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"There is no 'equal opportunity' today unless the government makes it so."
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"abortion is not killing Its birth control"
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"When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."
A lie doesn't become the truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good just because it is accepted by a majority.
Author: Booker T. Washington
you want to us to double down on it
Can we for once do the right thing with the FACTS in hand
Big Money (09-11-2013), Truth Detector (09-11-2013)
Good summary, MM. War is horrible. Death is horrible. But - the world has said "chemical weapons are evil and banned".
I agree the 100,000 plus people killed by "conventional" weapons are also to be mourned. But the world hasn't banned conventional weapons; we have - all the countries, pretty much - banned chemical weapons.
Are we now to say "oops, we didn't mean it?" Then what happens re Iran and nuclear weapons?
I don't want to get involved in Syria either. And it's possible now we won't - it's possible now that our threats not only got Assad to admit he had the weapons, but maybe will give the world a way to get those weapons out of Syria, or at least under international control. Assad is pretty good at killing his people in other ways, so guess he won't miss them. But NO ONE wants those weapons to get into the hands of a bunch of rival factions, which could happen if Assad loses.
If we do bomb Syria, I can only hope we do it strategically - that it doesn't cause further repercussions -that we don't kill too many civilians - that it doesn't pull us in further.
Syria is an open wound in the world. I wish we could stop the fighting and somehow fix it. We can't. But maybe we can keep these chemical weapons from being used by either side. It's not much. But it's something.
And yes, Darla - all weapons are horrible; all deaths are to be mourned; but again - the world, in various treaties, have said that chemical weapons are even worse - probably because of the damage they cause to civilians and the way they can't be targeted. So do we follow the treaties or do we give up? And if we give up - does that mean we give up totally and all countries can have nuclear weapons as well?
I know that's outside the scope of this thread, so I'm ok with us not discussing that last point.
maineman (09-11-2013)
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