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    Some interesting observations on Syria, the committee appearances of Hagel and Kerry. Undoubtedly skewed right, but on Syria I'm not so sure there is a right and left.

    http://www.nationalreview.com/corner

    It's many different authors, not all posts will be on topic, but I think many will find things of interest. This caught my eye, keeping in mind that this is a civil war and both sides would use any weapons they can get. Both sides will and have used civilians:


    Let’s Not Repeat Key Iraq Mistakes
    By David French
    September 4, 2013 3:00 PM


    American leaders always seem to underestimate the savagery and ferocity of our Middle Eastern enemies. One of the worst (and bloodiest) mistakes in the Iraq War was not understanding the difficulty of replacing a brutal tyrant with a functioning, reasonably humane government. Even with more than 120,000 troops on the ground, we spent years struggling to contain not just an anti-American insurgency but also a sectarian conflict so vicious that it was tough to determine who was more bloody-minded: al Qaeda or its Shiite militia opponents.

    The result was exceedingly grim. By 2007, Diyala Province (my unit’s area of operations) was so dominated by al Qaeda they named it the “Islamic Caliphate of Iraq,” and the region was arguably worse off than it had been under Saddam. It took almost a year of hard fighting to largely (though not entirely) purge al-Qaeda from the province. In fact, had we left Iraq when many on the left (including President Obama) urged us to, we’d likely face a strategic nightmare with al-Qaeda holding vast sections of strategically vital territory, possessing large stocks of conventional military weaponry, and with its main Shiite opposition so radical as to be essentially an eastern adjunct of Hezbollah. As flawed as Iraq’s current regime is, it’s far preferable to both Saddam Hussein’s or the radical alternatives we fought in the Surge.

    It would be prudent for us to remember that the alternatives to brutal dictatorship are not always what we’d like — especially as jihadists gain strength in the Syrian opposition, including some of the same vicious jihadists we fought in Iraq. Air strikes may alter the balance of power in the Syrian civil war, but they won’t endear us to al-Qaeda or any other Sunni radicals fighting Assad. I fully recognize that I’m not privy to classified information regarding the nature and makeup of the Syrian rebels, but history demonstrates that we consistently approach the Middle East with rose-colored glasses, and a central question Congress should be asking is this: If we “degrade” Assad who do we empower?

    If it’s al-Qaeda or any of its allies, then it’s not “isolationist” to oppose military action, it’s common sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Annie View Post
    Some interesting observations on Syria, the committee appearances of Hagel and Kerry. Undoubtedly skewed right, but on Syria I'm not so sure there is a right and left.

    http://www.nationalreview.com/corner

    It's many different authors, not all posts will be on topic, but I think many will find things of interest. This caught my eye, keeping in mind that this is a civil war and both sides would use any weapons they can get. Both sides will and have used civilians:



    http://aclj.org/Writers/david-french


    who cares what a con thinks

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    Im going to go get really fucking stoned now.
    You mean you weren't baked already?

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    google them
    Google is your source?



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    In America, rights are are not determined by what is just, fair, equitable, honest, nor by what Jesus would do. Rights are determined ONLY by what you can DEMAND.

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    you can determine if someone was really a leading scientist or an actual defense secretary that way huh?

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    These defectors are who they say they are.


    you cant deny that.


    They have evidence they are about to show you.


    will you call them lairs out of spite?

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    Are only the facts you like real?

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    Are only the facts you like real?
    Has anyone actually called them liars?

    I think it's more just trying to learn from the past and from lessons like the one Curveball provided. All intel isn't sound intel- corroboration is needed, and sometimes further proof.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    These defectors are who they say they are. you cant deny that. They have evidence they are about to show you. will you call them lairs out of spite?
    Why would I call them "lairs"?

    Can you explain how you already know what they are "about to show"?

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    they called them CURVEBALL


    we all know what he was huh

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    these are top level knowledge people.


    why do you hate them for nothing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    http://aclj.org/Writers/david-french


    who cares what a con thinks
    Whatever you wish to call this, from your link:

    About David French »

    David is a Senior Counsel at the American Center for Law and Justice. A graduate of Harvard Law School, he is a former Senior Counsel for the Alliance Defense Fund, and a past president of the Foundation of Individual Rights in Education. He has taught at Cornell Law School and served as a commercial litigation partner in the firm of Greenebaum, Doll & McDonald. His legal practice is concentrated on constitutional law and the international law of armed conflict, and he is licensed to practice before the Supreme Court of the United States. David is the author of multiple books, including Home and Away: A Story of Family in a Time of War and A Season for Justice: Defending the Rights of the Christian Home, Church, and School. David is a regular contributor to National Review Online, a columnist for Patheos, and he has written numerous op-eds and articles, including pieces in the Washington Post, Washington Times, Human Events, Townhall, New York Post, New York Daily News, Boston Herald, and Philadelphia Daily News. Regularly interviewed by both print and broadcast media, David has appeared on ABC World News Tonight, The O’Reilly Factor, CNN Newsroom, The Fox Report with Shepard Smith, and Special Report with Brit Hume, among others. A regular guest on talk radio programs, David has been interviewed on National Public Radio and by numerous hosts, including Michael Medved, Hugh Hewitt, Laura Ingraham, Dennis Prager, James Dobson, and Michael Reagan. David has guest-hosted a number of radio programs, including the Hugh Hewitt Show. David is the 2012 recipient of the American Conservative Union’s Ronald Reagan Award. David is also a Captain in the United States Army Reserve, joining the USAR in April, 2006. He currently serves as Brigade Judge Advocate for the 1st Brigade, 104th Division. From October 2007 to September 2008 CPT French served as Squadron Judge Advocate for the 2d Squadron, 3d Armored Cavalry Regiment in Diyala Province, Iraq, where he was awarded the Bronze Star. David and his wife Nancy have two daughters (ages 13 and 4) and a son (age 11). They live in Columbia, Tennessee.
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    This is known as “bad luck.” - Robert Heinlein

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    they called them CURVEBALL


    we all know what he was huh

    A defector?

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    these are top level knowledge people.


    why do you hate them for nothing?
    I don't think Dungheap's or Onceler's post said or showed anything about hating these people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    these are top level knowledge people.


    why do you hate them for nothing?
    This has to stop. You did the same thing w/ the 'ear witness.'

    Wanting corroboration or further proof is not calling someone a liar, or "hating" them.

    Grow up.

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